http://www.ivorcatt.co.uk/x38q.htm
The
Scientists’ New Clothes.
http://www.ivorcatt.co.uk/x8ahcharlton.html
The argument of this book in a single
paragraph
Briefly, the argument of this book is
that real science is dead, and the main reason is that professional researchers
are not even trying to
seek the truth and speak the truth; and the reason for this is that
professional ‘scientists’ no
longer believe in the truth ….….
http://www.ivorcatt.co.uk/x231.pdf
The Germans were shocked to learn that an
“Armistice” meant a surrender, which is how their
government regarded it. They felt betrayed. Meanwhile the British interpreted
it as a victory. The machine gun, representing high technology, was blamed for
the massive number of deaths, and funding for science was under threat. To
safeguard the continuing supply of money to science, a more “user friendly”,
softer science was invented, less brittle than true science. This led to the
unscientific concept of wave-particle duality and the Uncertainty Principle – that what an observer thinks he sees is central to science.
The brightest young students were alienated by these unscientific concepts, and
switched to careers in law or accountancy, leaving science with the more
gullible “scientists”, and those attracted by the increasing funding and status
coming to “scientists”, rather than those attracted by true science.
I believe this apparent "victory" exacerbated the
belief that Germany was betrayed by civilians at home (ie:
the Dolchstoßlegende
). The armistice
wasn't officially a surrender, but apparently the
terms were not very good for a country that wasn't really defeated.
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WITH MODERN-DAY ACADEMIA: A RESIGNATION
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Here is a mind-blowing text that was sent to
all EPFLresearchers (presumably) by
a doctoral student during the week-end. It expresses feelings that are worth to
think about.
Just to be crystal-clear:
· I
am not the author of this text.
· I
don’t publish the name of his/her author, since I have no proof that his/her
e-mail address was not spoofed.
· I
don’t think that the exposed facts are a problematic unique to EPFL, nor to any
other Swiss university: to the contrary, this is probably a worldwide
phenomenon.
· Finally,
I would like to make very clear that I did not experience the same
feelings at all during my (very happy) PhD times at EPFL. So,
don’t try to make any parallel with my own experience.
· Like
the author, I don’t have any good idea how to change the system towards a
better one.
Still, if you are or have been in the academic world, I
think it is worth to invest 10 minutes to read this text.
Dear EPFL,
I am writing to state that, after four years of hard
but enjoyable PhD work at this school, I am planning to quit my thesis in
January, just a few months shy of completion. Originally, this was a letter
that was intended only for my advisors. However, as I prepared to write it I
realized that the message here may be pertinent to anyone involved in research
across the entire EPFL, and so have extended its range just a bit.
Specifically, this is intended for graduate students, postdocs, senior
researchers, and professors, as well as for the people at the highest tiers of
the school’s management. To those who have gotten this and are not in those
groups, I apologize for the spam.
While I could give a multitude of reasons for leaving
my studies – some more concrete, others more abstract – the essential
motivation stems from my personal conclusion that I’ve lost faith in today’s
academia as being something that brings a positive benefit to the
world/societies we live in. Rather, I’m starting to think of it as a big money
vacuum that takes in grants and spits out nebulous results, fueled
by people whose main concerns are not to advance knowledge and to effect
positive change, though they may talk of such things, but to build their CVs
and to propel/maintain their careers. But more on that later.
Before continuing, I want to be very clear about two
things. First, not everything that I will say here is from my personal first hand experience. Much is also based on conversations
I’ve had with my peers, outside the EPFL and in, and reflects their experiences
in addition to my own. Second, any negative statements that I make in this
letter should not be taken to heart by all of its readers. It is not my
intention to demonize anyone, nor to target specific
individuals. I will add that, both here and elsewhere, I have met some
excellent people and would not – not in a hundred years – dare accuse them of
what I wrote in the previous paragraph. However, my fear and suspicion is that
these people are few, and that all but the most successful ones are being marginalized
by a system that, feeding on our innate human weaknesses, is quickly getting
out of control.
I don’t know how many of the PhD students reading
this entered their PhD programs with the desire to actually *learn* and to
somehow contribute to science in a positive manner. Personally, I
did. If you did, too, then you’ve probably shared at least some of
the frustrations that I’m going to describe next.
(1) Academia: It’s Not Science, It’s
Business
I’m going to start with the supposition that the goal
of “science” is to search for truth, to improve our understanding of the
universe around us, and to somehow use this understanding to move the world
towards a better tomorrow. At least, this is the propaganda that we’ve often
been fed while still young, and this is generally the propaganda that
universities that do research use to put themselves on lofty moral ground, to
decorate their websites, and to recruit naïve youngsters like myself.
I’m also going to suppose that in order to find
truth, the basic prerequisite is that you, as a researcher, have to be brutally
honest – first and foremost, with yourself and about the quality of your own
work. Here one immediately encounters a contradiction,
as such honesty appears to have a very minor role in many people’s agendas.
Very quickly after your initiation in the academic world, you learn that being
“too honest” about your work is a bad thing and that stating your research’s
shortcomings “too openly” is a big faux pas. Instead, you are
taught to “sell” your work, to worry about your “image”, and to be strategic in
your vocabulary and where you use it. Preference is given to good presentation
over good content – a priority that, though understandable at times, has now
gone overboard. The “evil” kind of networking (see, e.g., http://thoughtcatalog.com/2011/networking-good-vs-evil/
) seems to be openly encouraged. With so many business-esque
things to worry about, it’s actually surprising that *any* scientific research
still gets done these days. Or perhaps not, since it’s precisely the naïve
PhDs, still new to the ropes, who do almost all of it.
(2) Academia:
Work Hard, Young Padawan, So That One Day You Too May
Manage!
I sometimes find
it both funny and frightening that the majority of the world’s academic
research is actually being done by people like me, who don’t even have a PhD
degree. Many advisors, whom you would expect to truly be pushing science
forward with their decades of experience, do surprisingly little and only
appear to manage the PhD students, who slave away on papers that their advisors
then put their names on as a sort of “fee” for having taken the time to read
the document (sometimes, in particularly desperate cases, they may even try to
steal first authorship). Rarely do I hear of advisors who actually go through
their students’ work in full rigor and detail, with many apparently having
adopted the “if it looks fine, we can submit it for publication” approach.
Apart from
feeling the gross unfairness of the whole thing – the students, who do the real
work, are paid/rewarded amazingly little, while those
who manage it, however superficially, are paid/rewarded amazingly much – the
PhD student is often left wondering if they are only doing science now so that
they may themselves manage later. The worst is when a PhD who wants to stay in
academia accepts this and begins to play on the other side of the table. Every
PhD student reading this will inevitably know someone unlucky enough to have
fallen upon an advisor who has accepted this sort of management and is now
inflicting it on their own students – forcing them to write paper after paper
and to work ridiculous hours so that the advisor may advance his/her career or,
as is often the case, obtain tenure. This is unacceptable and needs to stop.
And yet as I write this I am reminded of how EPFL has instituted its own
tenure-track system not too long ago.
(3) Academia:
The Backwards Mentality
A very saddening
aspect of the whole academic system is the amount of self-deception that goes
on, which is a “skill” that many new recruits are forced to master early on… or
perish. As many PhD students don’t truly get to choose their research topic,
they are forced to adopt what their advisors do and to do “something original”
on it that could one day be turned into a thesis. This is all fine and good
when the topic is genuinely interesting and carries a lot of potential.
Personally, I was lucky to have this be the case for me, but I also know enough
people who, after being given their topic, realized that the research direction
was of marginal importance and not as interesting as it was hyped up by their
advisor to be.
This seems to
leave the student with a nasty ultimatum. Clearly, simply telling the advisor
that the research is not promising/original does not work – the advisor has
already invested too much of his time, reputation, and career into the topic
and will not be convinced by someone half his age that he’s made a mistake. If
the student insists, he/she will be labelled as “stubborn” and, if the
insisting is too strong, may not be able to obtain the PhD. The alternative,
however unpleasant, is to lie to yourself and to find arguments that you’re
morally comfortable with that somehow convince you that what you’re doing has
important scientific value. For those for whom obtaining a PhD is a *must*
(usually for financial reasons), the choice, however tragic, is obvious.
The real problem
is that this habit can easily carry over into one’s postgraduate studies, until
the student themselves becomes like the professor, with the backwards mentality
of “it is important because I’ve spent too many years working on it”.
(4) Academia:
Where Originality Will Hurt You
The good,
healthy mentality would naturally be to work on research that we believe is
important. Unfortunately, most such research is challenging and difficult to
publish, and the current publish-or-perish system makes it difficult to put
bread on the table while working on problems that require at least ten years of
labour before you can report even the most preliminary results. Worse yet, the
results may not be understood, which, in some cases, is tantamount to them
being rejected by the academic community. I acknowledge that this is difficult,
and ultimately cannot criticize the people who choose not to pursue such
“risky” problems.
Ideally, the
academic system would encourage those people who are already well established
and trusted to pursue these challenges, and I’m sure that some already do. However,
I cannot help but get the impression that the majority of us are avoiding the
real issues and pursuing minor, easy problems that we know can be solved and
published. The result is a gigantic literature full of marginal/repetitive
contributions. This, however, is not necessarily a bad thing if it’s a good CV
that you’re after.
(5) Academia:
The Black Hole of Bandwagon Research
Indeed, writing
lots of papers of questionable value about a given popular topic seems to be a
very good way to advance your academic career these days. The advantages are
clear: there is no need to convince anyone that the topic is pertinent and you
are very likely to be cited more since more people are likely to work on
similar things. This will, in turn, raise your impact factor and will help to
establish you as a credible researcher, regardless of whether your work is
actually good/important or not. It also establishes a sort of stable network,
where you pat other (equally opportunistic) researchers on the back while they pat away at yours.
Unfortunately,
not only does this lead to quantity over quality, but many researchers, having
grown dependent on the bandwagon, then need to find ways to keep it alive even
when the field begins to stagnate. The results are usually disastrous. Either
the researchers begin to think up of creative but completely absurd extensions
of their methods to applications for which they are not appropriate, or they
attempt to suppress other researchers who propose more original alternatives
(usually, they do both). This, in turn, discourages new researchers from
pursuing original alternatives and encourages them to join the bandwagon,
which, though founded on a good idea, has now stagnated and is maintained by
nothing but the pure will of the community that has become dependent on it. It
becomes a giant, money-wasting mess.
(6) Academia:
Statistics Galore!
“Professors with
papers are like children,” a professor once told me. And, indeed, there seems
to exist an unhealthy obsession among academics regarding
their numbers of citations, impact factors, and numbers of publications. This
leads to all sorts of nonsense, such as academics making “strategic citations”,
writing “anonymous” peer reviews where they encourage the authors of the
reviewed paper to cite their work, and gently trying to tell their colleagues
about their recent work at conferences or other networking events or sometimes
even trying to slip each other their papers with a
“I’ll-read-yours-if-you-read-mine” wink and nod. No one, when asked if they
care about their citations, will ever admit to it, and yet these same people
will still know the numbers by heart. I admit that I’ve been there before, and
hate myself for it.
At the EPFL, the
dean sends us an e-mail every year saying how the school is doing in the
rankings, and we are usually told that we are doing well. I always ask myself
what the point of these e-mails is. Why should it matter to a scientist if his
institution is ranked tenth or eleventh by such and such committee? Is it to
boost our already overblown egos? Wouldn’t it be nicer for the dean to send us
an annual report showing how EPFL’s work is affecting the world, or how it has
contributed to resolving certain important problems? Instead, we get these
stupid numbers that tell us what universities we can look down on and what
universities we need to surpass.
(7) Academia:
The Violent Land of Giant Egos
I often wonder
if many people in academia come from insecure childhoods where they were never
the strongest or the most popular among their peers, and, having studied more
than their peers, are now out for revenge. I suspect that yes, since it is the
only explanation I can give to explain why certain researchers attack, in the
bad way, other researchers’ work. Perhaps the most common manifestation of this
is via peer reviews, where these people abuse their anonymity to tell you, in
no ambiguous terms, that you are an idiot and that your work isn’t worth a pile
of dung. Occasionally, some have the gall to do the same during conferences,
though I’ve yet to witness this latter manifestation personally.
More than once
I’ve heard leading researchers in different fields refer to other methods with
such beautiful descriptions as “garbage” or “trash”, sometimes even extending
these qualifiers to pioneering methods whose only crime is that they are
several decades old and which, as scientists, we ought to respect as a man
respects his elders. Sometimes, these people will take a break from saying bad
things about people in their own fields and turn their attention to other
domains – engineering academics, for example, will sometimes make fun of the
research done in the humanities, ridiculing it as ludicrous and
inconsequential, as if what they did was more important.
(8) Academia:
The Greatest Trick It Ever Pulled was Convincing the
World That It was Necessary
Perhaps the most
crucial, piercing question that the people in academia should ask themselves is
this: “Are we really needed?” Year after year, the system takes in tons of
money via all sorts of grants. Much of this money then goes to pay underpaid
and underappreciated PhD students who, with or without the help of their
advisors, produce some results. In many cases, these results are
incomprehensible to all except a small circle, which makes their value
difficult to evaluate in any sort of objective manner. In some rare cases, the
incomprehensibility is actually justified – the result may be very powerful but
may, for example, require a lot of mathematical development that you really do
need a PhD to understand. In many cases, however, the result, though requiring
a lot of very cool math, is close to useless in application.
This is fine,
because real progress is slow. What’s bothersome, however, is how long a purely
theoretical result can be milked for grants before the researchers decide to
produce something practically useful. Worse yet, there often does not appear to
be a strong urge for people in academia to go and apply their result, even when
this becomes possible, which most likely stems from the fear of failure – you
are morally comfortable researching your method as long as it works in theory,
but nothing would hurt more than to try to apply it and to learn that it
doesn’t work in reality. No one likes to publish papers which show how their
method fails (although, from a scientific perspective, they’re obliged to).
These are just
some examples of things that, from my humble perspective, are “wrong” with
academia. Other people could probably add others, and we could go and write a
book about it. The problem, as I see it, is that we are not doing very much to
remedy these issues, and that a lot of people have already accepted that “true
science” is simply an ideal that will inevitably disappear with the current
system proceeding along as it is. As such, why risk our careers and reputations
to fight for some noble cause that most of academia won’t really appreciate
anyway?
I’m going to
conclude this letter by saying that I don’t have a solution to these things.
Leaving my PhD is certainly not a solution – it is merely a personal decision –
and I don’t encourage other people to do anything of the sort. What I do
encourage is some sort of awareness and responsibility. I think that there are
many of us, certainly in my generation, who would like to see “academia” be
synonymous with “science”. I know I would, but I’ve given up on this happening
and so will pursue true science by some other path.
While there was
a time when I thought that I would be proud to have the letters “PhD” after my
name, this is unfortunately no longer the case. However, nothing can take away
the knowledge that I’ve gained during these four years, and for that, EPFL, I
remain eternally grateful.
My sincerest
thanks for reading this far
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1. REPLY
09/09/2013
JAN DE RUITER
Everything
written here is important and true. Many thanks to the author
for taking the trouble to write it up. I wish the author a productive
and fullfilling life outside of academia.
2. REPLY
09/09/2013
BILL SKAGGS
The word for this is “burnout”. I’ve seen it happen
to graduate students a dozen times in a dozen places. Most commonly it is the
result of people forcing themselves to work very hard for a long time on
something that doesn’t actually interest them or that they don’t understand.
The negativity that that produces spreads like a cancer.
3. REPLY
09/09/2013
CARL
@Bill Skaggs – what’s your point
here? Are you denying the things s/he describes are real our prevalent? If not
are you denying that they’re a problem?
Thus is a really common response to
great students who express their frustrations with how broken academia is.
Instead of responding to the problems, ours thrown back on the student: “he’s a
burnout,” “he just can’t cut it and he’s bitter,” etc. That’s another symptom
of what’s wrong-as if being successful in science requires developing Stockholm
syndrome towards your superiors and cynicism towards your peers and juniors.
And *that’s* the attitude that’s spread like a cancer.
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20/07/2015
JESSICA
I totally agree
with your comment, @Carl. Nothing to add.
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23/02/2016
UNITED
Good point, i agree!
Same problems here in Germany, you get ripped off the society if you research
for truth! (i hope i wrote it right)
4. REPLY
09/09/2013
GLENN
Interesting points. 1) yes, it’s a business,
because it costs a lot of money to pay for the people and infrastructure needed
to do many forms of research. Did you think we live off the goodness of our
hearts? 2) Good mentors will start PhD students writing most of the paper
themselves (and with others), and gradually teach you to conceive of and write
papers on your own. Good mentors are hard to find, sadly. And yes, being a
senior researcher means filling out a lot of paperwork (grant applications) and
actively managing junior students and faculty. It’s part of the job. 3) You
sound very bitter that you chose a topic you’re not interested in. Original
research doesn’t mean you’ll cure cancer or win a Nobel Prize. But a thousand
people all doing a little piece of original research does advance science and
occasionally make for some amazing insights. We can’t all be astronauts. 4) I
think this feeds more back into the business side of research. The need for
research grants (or corporate sponsors, in some cases) makes it harder for
abstract basic science research to get funding. I agree this is a major
problem. 5) How you measure something influences how people will do it. If I
teach a class and make participation 90% of the course grade, you can bet
everyone will be in class and pretend to be attentive. If participation is 0%
of the grade, then students will show up if they value my input and the class
discussion. Likewise, academia is driven by some very odd measurements, such as
impact and citation and number of publications and amount of grant dollars
received. How else would you propose to measure research activities? 6) This is
related to #5; in any social network it’s common to support your peers if it
doesn’t take away from yourself. 7) Academia doesn’t have a monopoly on giant
egos. How much time have you spent in industry? 8) There has been a strong
trend in the last decade to emphasize ‘translational research,’ namely getting
ideas from research labs into practical use more quickly. This also supports
the business case for research, as noted previously. And frankly I don’t know
of anyone who would deliberately block application of their research, so I
don’t know where this point is coming from. Is it an extension of #3?
I’m sorry that your research experience left you so sad and bitter.
5. REPLY
09/09/2013
ANDY
While I
understand the author might want to remain anonymous, it would be nice to know
in what branch of science he/she was working.
6. REPLY
09/09/2013
TERRY A. DAVIS
Thomas Edison spent his late years in
courtrooms doing legal stuff instead of the lab. It wasn’t pretty — he fought
against AC power with deception because his was DC. This goes to show making
money, getting glory and power are done by doing what we would rather not do.
So much wasted potential! Academia and law slow things down.
7. REPLY
09/09/2013
SANDY
@ Glenn
1) No one contests the need for science or at least some elements of it to be
treated as a business. In fact I believe that a part of the solution lies in
partially corporatizing academic research. The issue is about accountability of
your science. A business runs on making profits and if those profits are false
it doubles on itself. Now when science deceives itself in order to appear more slick (to get that paper published, to get a grant and
what not) you can imagine the pitfalls in the future.
2) Managing is and should be a part of the job but it should not become the
only part of your job. I sadly have to admit most of the scientists I have met
are hardly even aware of the literature in what they are doing, let alone guide
someone well. They just “manage” and proofread and sell a lot of snake oil.
3) Its not about winning the noble prize or curing
cancer its about choosing routes that are never gonna be of any use for anyone or anything. I can assure
you at least in biology a lot of research happens on concepts that are just
fundamentally wrong. SO you solve a very interesting problem which is
publishable but absolutely useless- “sudoku science”
5) Measurements need to happen but when those measurements are not based purely
on merit and include factors such as whose ass you licked the most last
conference its immensely detrimental to the entire organization
6) “any social network”- I think you have forgotten what science is meant to be
its meant to be beyond social networks, its meant to be cold hard facts without
a hint of emotion. So no do not treat it as if its your high school gang its
NOT.
7) The difference is in industry you are expected to have one and nobody hides
it. In science nobody is supposed to have one yet everybody does and the very
basic principles of science are hurt because of it.
8) As to translational research a lot does come out nowadays but you need to
look at it in terms of how much goes in and how much is coming out. The numbers
are pathetic compared to 20-30 years. If we were a business with taht strike rate we would be share
holder/market breakfast.
8. REPLY
10/09/2013
FEUDRENAIS
Wow… I didn’t
think that this would spread so quickly.
The guy who
wrote that piece is actually me, and though I can’t fight all the wall-of-texts
that people will post here, I do want to say that I enjoyed my time at EPFL
tremendously, that this definitely wasn’t a burning out, and that the problems
with academia were not my only reason for resigning. There are also a number of
reasons completely unrelated to my frustrations, although this is the main one
– as I said, I simply don’t want to accept a degree from a system that I no
longer find as being beneficial.
I’m glad that
this is generating discussion though. A number of EPFL professors have written
back to me (students have not officially received this yet due to moderation),
and most replies have been in support of what is written in the letter. Some
have amended certain points or said that certain things work differently in
their departments. No one has really denied the things in this letter. To be
frank, if you’ve been in scientific academia, I think you’d have to be crazy
to, but everyone’s experience is different.
En tout cas,
merci pour le pub, Pascal
9. REPLY
10/09/2013
JACOB
Academia is a
business, but it is one that is virtually exempt from most business taxes and labor laws.
I find it
interesting that the ones who heinously defend this system are the first to
pass judgement and jump to the ” burnout” conclusion.
I have had a similar experience, though not at the PhD level, with my
professors. Instead of being able to reason and discuss the state/ problems of
academia, some professors, including ones I really liked as people, started to
view me as a rebel. Interesting, considering I was at the top
of my class. Apparently students should not be encouraged to grow up and
think for themselves!
Thank you for
sharing this.
10. REPLY
10/09/2013
MICHAEL TOOMIM
@Glenn, and @Bill Skaggs
I am leaving
Academia for the same reasons as this author. I am 8 years into it. I am fully
motivated by my thesis topic. I could graduate in 3 months, but I no longer
believe in what the PhD degree stands for.
This is not an
issue (as Bill Skaggs suggests) of burnout. I am definitely not burned out. On
the contrary, I work on my thesis every day—even though I have left the
academy! Rather than write a dissertation that hardly anyone will read, my
newfound freedom allows me to write up my research in an accessible form that
anyone in the public can read and gain insights from. This is very motivating!
And I do not
suffer from having chosen an uninteresting thesis topic, as Glenn suggests. I
think my topic is very relevant!
To the original
author, and others like him: Thank you very much for writing this! The Academy
appears to be in the beginning of a crisis, and it is very helpful for people
like you to draw attention to it. I have some ideas for a solution. Please
contact me if you would like to discuss them!
11. REPLY
10/09/2013
PLAIN AVERAGE MIND
Sadly, there are similar kind
of things happening in professional or tech industry, too. What can you do,
since the power is on “one side of the table”?
12. REPLY
10/09/2013
MARTIN
In response to
“Glenn”:
Keep living in
the matrix, agent Smith.
13. REPLY
10/09/2013
ALFRED CHARLES
We could pretend
that everything is actually okay and that the author of the letter was just
suffering from “burnout.” Or not.
Currently, a
huge percentage of grant money goes directly to the University, to pay for
things like the library’s new heating system, the upkeep of the flowers, and
the new swimming pool. That’s why universities want their professors to be
big-time salesmen. It’s expensive to run a university! Which begs the question:
Is the university even needed?
A different
model:
1) Separate
undergraduate science education from graduate-level science education. (High
school is already separate. It’s not such a strange idea.)
Primarily-undergraduate universities already exist and do very well for their
students. The people teaching undergraduates should be professional teachers,
first and foremost. It’s not necessary for them to be working scientists: you
don’t need a working scientist to teach Newtonian Mechanics. Nor do you need to
be chasing after grants. A salary should suffice.
Students could
also learn the basics from free MOOCs, and can get tested by certified testing centers. That’s already happening and will only get more
popular: it’s low-cost and it works.
2) Researchers
should create their own highly-specialized working / graduate-training labs
*independent* of any University. If they need something like group medical
insurance or access to a library, they can buy it a la carte, probably through
professional organizations like the IEEE or the ACM. Independent labs already
exist, but I’m proposing that they also assume the responsibility of teaching
their new recruits, both through coursework and apprenticeship. No doubt such
labs already exist but none come to mind.
Governments
could easily promote such a model, by making it clear who will be getting the
grants in the future.
14. REPLY
10/09/2013
WAKJOB
Bring in more
conmen Indians. That will fix it.
o REPLY
03/07/2016
VIVEK
@wakjob This is abusive language
you used against the Big Nation of the world. You shouldn’t do this if you
really support Science in any way.
15. REPLY
10/09/2013
PASCAL
@FeuDRenais: 51’000+ views in less than 24h. Apparently, I
was not the only one to be shaken by your letter…
16. REPLY
10/09/2013
CHAD
My applause to
the author, I feel he makes many excellent points. I agree,
science fails more frequently than it succeeds in providing a benefit to
society. I am earning my Ph.D. in infectious diseases and the only reason I
sought a research career in I.D. was to put myself out of a job – to find
cures. What did I find when I got to graduate school and started to learn the
landscape of the field? That (with only very few exceptions) the field was
doing exactly the opposite – each investigator only sought to obtain the next
grant and establish a “career,” – there was little or no thought given as to whether
or not the research would positively impact anyone’s life, only whether or not
a project would get funded or provide new funding opportunities in the future.
And, as much as I would like to point the finger at PI’s for leading graduate
students and post-doc’s down this path to the “dark side”, I see it more as
symptomatic of an entire system that is both corrupt and failing. I’ve heard
that “the grant system works” and I’m sure it does – in a nepotistic and
masturbatory fashion, but the pipeline for antibiotic discovery has nearly all
but dried up, HIV is still a menace to the world, and malaria, tuberculosis,
and diarrheal diseases still account for the vast bulk of all human casualties
every year.
17. REPLY
10/09/2013
PAU FERNÁNDEZ
@FeuDRenais Thanks for your letter, and @Pascal thanks for
publishing it. I think it is a very accurate description of the current
situation. I am relieved to learn that other people have similar opinions and
also refuse to comply with the system.
18. REPLY
10/09/2013
MKB
Looks like high school really never ends, eh?
I was looking into a PhD to get out of the popularity
contest that is the independent inventor / kickstarter
thing, but… I think I’ll get back to trying to cure malaria on a budget
instead. <= see what I did there?
Jokes aside, interesting post. Seems this stuff
always happens when something gets too institutionalized, the institution
becomes more important than the thing. Parkinsons
laws and all that.
19. REPLY
10/09/2013
ROB
Being a PhD
student at “the other” EPFL in Zurich, I
completely sympathize with the author. I went through similar thinking a lot,
however I did not decide to leave it – and this is not because I want those 3
letters and the “financial benefits” (?) coming with it….
I hear this kind
of argumentation a lot and everything seems to be somewhat true. However, to
even *see* academia that way requires some kind of general negative attitude
towards the thing – which is, by all the frustration PhD students suffer often,
not very hard to get. I had it myself, more than once. And of course it becomes
worse when you are trapped in your social bubble, surrounded by other PhD
students who feel the same, reinforcing their thinking.
But here is the
thing: the letter suggests that there are only two real options: a) you choose
to be part of this “dirty” game and business or b) you are consequent and leave
academia.
BUT THERE IS
ANOTHER OPTION ….
We are the young
generation of scientists. We are the ones who will one day decide how to do and
handle things in academia. We are the ones who can break out of that scheme.
And I chose that way. And to be honest, I would have liked you would have done
the same, cause only if we (a critical mass of critically reflecting
scientists) start to rethink the whole system, to be honest in our paper, to
not only sell stuff because we need another paper to fulfill
the project requirements, to take more time to do research, do more quality
research, and publish less, we CAN change how things are done.
WE ARE THE NEW
GENERATION OF SCIENTISTS!
And I don’t mean
this as some kind of rebellion or revolution kind of thing. I just mean that
this is what we are. And as such it WILL BE us, like in every other aspect of
society, who WILL decide how things are run. And I would prefer to have more
people like the author to be in academia, for the good of it.
I chose to fight
for it, and not to let them screw it for eternity.
And no, Rob is
not my real name. If you want to get in contact with me, cause you want to meet
or talk or whatever, just answer this post.
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01/03/2016
MYUNGJI
Thank you for
writing this. I’m also Ph.D student who had the same
view as the author, and your comment is so encouraging Recently
I’ve also decided to stay at the academia, even though these problems still
exist. Research is not perfect, because it is also part of human life. But we
can still hold the essence of science. That’s better choice for academia.
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05/03/2016
L
It is really
encouraging to see someone sufficiently optimistic as to believe that change is
still possible. I wonder how your attitude towards this evolved from the time
you wrote this post. Not sure if leaving a reply here sends an email to you but
just writing in case it does. Let me know if you would like to email/chat. I
hold somewhat similar views to the author (though I am in social sciences) and
would like to talk to someone who actually tries to do research at least
partially for idealistic reasons…
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18/04/2017
GERAQ
I used to
believe in what you said, but I don’t anymore. I used to think that my coworkers and I would be able to change things once we have
the chance, if we could wait for 5 or 10 years for that chance. But the system
itself works its way to wear you down, to make you bitter and cynnical. It’s not worthy. It really doesn’t.
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05/03/2018
ANON
“WE ARE THE NEW
GENERATION OF SCIENTISTS! ”
I’m sure that 30
years ago there were also optimistic young scientists who could change
everything. Why would our generation be better/worse than any other generation?
Evolution doesn’t go that fast. What I have come to realise is that it is
established scientists who sit on all the job and
grant committees and decide who gets to be their successors. So I don’t see how
things will improve in the current system. I think change has to come from
above the top of science: Governments. Young scientists should contact their
elected representatives.
20. REPLY
10/09/2013
RESEARCHNEWBIE
Having recently
started a PhD, you might argue I have not been fully confronted with the vices
of the system.
However, I don’t think the arguments presented here are new to anyone in
Academia. I do agree with most of them, but I quite significantly disagree as
to how detrimental and widespread they are. But maybe that is a question of
personal feeling.
I’d simply like
to state a few opinions:
– It seems to
all boil down to research evaluation. I think people forget that objective
perfect evaluation does not exist. If we use measurable criteria (citation),
then of course people will adapt. If you ask experts to give opinions, it is
subjective and community is so small that conflict of interests are inevitable.
I think experience shows that relying only on subjective opinions is leaving
more space for nepotism anyway so…
– Nearly everybody seems to think that it was better before: sorry for my lack
of experience, but can someone actually show this to me. I feel like people
actually prefer no evaluation to any evaluation. This creates a lot less
troubles but I do not think this is very satisfactory either.
– I have not met any of these evil minds undermining research by trying to push
their work at all cost and preventing honest scientist to perform their work
properly. We have to realise that practically everyone is participating in this
system and I do not hear people talking about collective responsibility. It
seems to me people tend to exaggerate what others do while at the same time
minimizing their own actions. This is to my opinion the deepest vice of the
system.
– Selling research is part of the job. People might argue it is going too far
and i agree, but if you write revolutionary work but
nobody reads it, then you are not managing that good in the end.
– Researchers are employed by university, this implies
they have obligations towards their employer like any other employee. Research
is not the only thing they are hired for. This is probably detrimental to
science but I think researchers can spend a reasonable amount of time
researching if they want to. So if they don’t, again maybe they not only have
to but also prefer doing other things…
– When hiring a professor, networking skills and social abilities are also
evaluated. Like it or not, these are valuable skills as well, but I think some
people just prefer calling it ass-licking. Of course there are conflicts of
interest and nepotism, that is not my point.
P.S. Being also
an EPFL student, I like very much the part on the email that the dean sent us
about the Shangai ranking. It is very well phrased
and to my opinion, this mail was really grotesque.
there are many more things I’d like to say but I guess this is
enough.
o REPLY
23/03/2016
ANDREW BUCKLEY
You need only
one person to read your revolutionary work (the right person) to make a massive
impact.
The number of
citations/readers is often simply an indication of how inefficient and
unoriginal the system is. Having thousands of people working on the same
collections of problems at a surface level (and valuing that above all else) is
highly detrimental to the goal of making true progress.
21. REPLY
10/09/2013
NAMENAME
@Glenn @Sandy
On items 6) and
7) I absolutely and whole-heartedly agree with Sandy.
Look at the facts: the majority of research has been and is currently
bankrolled by society as a whole through taxes.
Taxpayers (who for the most part actually work hard and contribute to their
country’s GDP) live with the illusion that the cash they’ve worked so hard for
will go towards ‘fundamental science’ and ‘untangling the mysteries of the
universe for the better of society today and future generations’.
I can only imagine that politicians would have the hardest time ever convincing
their constituencies of the need to bankroll scientific research if taxpayers
knew that most of their money that goes towards ‘science’ really just goes
towards fragmented clusters of academics, one cockier than the next one, that
fight each other personally and generally spit on the basic principles of
science and research.
I’ve seen some disgusting stuff in my time as a PhD student: ‘Supervisors’ that
brown-nosed their way up to their PI positions without acquiring any hint of
technical expertise on the way up. PIs that do nothing but cheerleading will be
named ‘leaders’ or ‘stars’ in their field — for no other contribution to
‘science’ than talking enthusiastically and patting enough fellow ‘academics’
on their backs.
Society doesn’t
care about your ego and how well you cheer-lead!
Society bankrolls academia for straight-to-the-point scientific results.
22. REPLY
10/09/2013
ADRIA
Good science for
the sake of science/understanding still exists, but it’s hard to get money to
do it. Part of the problem with this IMO is the ascendance of ‘translational
research.’
As for the
system, the current pyramid scheme of academia is unsustainable. The best
solution I’ve heard proposed is to make the equivalent of tenured research
positions, sort of permanent postdocs, who should be paid decently, and can do
long-term projects. These should mostly replace the work force of poorly paid
and overly-numerous PhD students. This would then clear the way for fewer but better
and more motivated PhD students to actually be *trained.*
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23/03/2016
ANDREW BUCKLEY
Exactly. LONG term projects (10 years or so) are the ones which
facilitate the development of mastery.
23. REPLY
10/09/2013
RAPHAEL
@Andy: It seems
that the author was doing a PhD in (theoretical) computer science.
24. REPLY
10/09/2013
SELINA
I feel like
crying while reading the letter, everything is so true, and the whole phd is so painful, especially you
know you are doing something with little value and there are something you
really want to work on, but for the publication, you just have to stick to the
marginal improvement. The more closer to fulfill the requirement for the degree, the more pain to
force yourself to go even closer. To get the finial certificate of the phd is just like a sentenced man
waiting for the execution. It is a torture.
Thanks for the
author to speak it out and write it so well down. The society should know about
the true academia.
25. REPLY
10/09/2013
BOUDAH TALENKA
J’abonde dans le sens de l’auteur “anonyme” de ce texte.
Bien que la plupart des scientifiques
soient anglophones, voici sa traduction
en français : http://boudah.pl/frustration-d-un-aspirant-scientifique
26. REPLY
10/09/2013
LEE SMOLIN
Dear ??
As the author of a book about the issues
you so eloquently describe, The Trouble with Physics, I would urge you to stay
in academic science, for exactly the issues you describe. Like so many things
important for life the issues you talk about come down to values. There is to
put it simply, an ongoing fight between those of us who do science to satisfy
our curiosity about nature and increase our knowledge and those who do it for
careerist or egotistical reasons. We need you on our side in this fight. If you
do not stand up for your values, who do you think will do this work for you?
I faced the same crisis at the same
point in my career. What kept me in science was reading Paul Feyerabend’s Against Method which taught me that a life in
science must be both a search for truth and a challenge to our characters.
In a long career I’ve learned a few
things that I would pass on. As bad as it is-and every word you say is true- a
determined individual can have a career where they spend most of their time
doing what they love. In my experience those who followed their own compass
succeeded in their careers about as often as those who choose what they thought
would be good for their careers. In both cases nothing is guaranteed, life is
not fair and there are good people whose careers failed. But being ready to
quit puts you in the best situation, because you have nothing to loose. You are free because you are willing to walk. So why
not go for it and try for a scientific career based on love and integrity?
I also learned that when that
individual succeeds they can do a great deal to improve the situation for
others. One scientist with the right values can employ and protect many
promising young individuals, freeing them to pursue their own ideas. There are
also fights that can be won on an organizational level to promote the right
values, up to and including starting new institutions.
Finally, the hardest lesson is that
the fight is within each of us. Few are immune from their own egos and desire
for security and status. So the fight you are about to resign from turns out to
be a lifelong struggle to build your own character.
A final word: where ever you go if
you leave science you are likely to face the same fight, because it is in the
nature of modern life and modern organizations. So why not stay to fight it in
a place where the outcome can be to discover truth?
Respectfully,
Lee Smolin
27. REPLY
10/09/2013
ANON
@Wakjob,
This is exactly
what is happening right now, degrees are getting devalued, students live a
miserable and bitter life until they become in charge of things i.e. become
professors and the result would be either being brutal with their students or
something like this: http://www.slate.com/articles/life/culturebox/2013/04/there_are_no_academic_jobs_and_getting_a_ph_d_will_make_you_into_a_horrible.single.html
@Glenn,
You’re probably
one of those grey-haired nitwits who are certain that their ridiculous subject
is improving something, sadly it does improve your
pocket but nothing else. And by the way, you cant
really develop interest in a topic that you know very well is not improving
anything… @Sandy this is good example of “sudoku
science” http://metro.co.uk/2010/07/13/the-chicken-came-first-not-the-egg-scientists-prove-447738/
@TheWriter,
I hope you find
a better future, I’m disappointed in academia myself and I’m glad I haven’t
wasted a lot of time.
28. REPLY
10/09/2013
BOJANA
BRAVO!
BRAVO!
BRAVO!
EVERY single word is pure reflection of what is going on.
PLUS there are some other issues…
BUT the most ugly thing is that building a reputationa and mainting some
SELF IMAGE within the academia gets in the way of true science…..
I went to do the PhD because of the worst reason: got the opportunity and did
not give much of the tought to the topic at hand BUT
had a strong inner feeling of making something important….
For a while I thought I was crazy and stupid to be thinking same thoughts as
the author of the text BUT today I see a lot of BSing
going around where there is not place for TRUE
motivation, inspiration and meaningful activities….
HOWEVER thanks to Univers there are still people who
are doing AWERSOME , WORLD CHANGING stuff such as Elon
Musk with his 3 fantastic companies:
1) Tesla Motors
2) SpaceX
3) Solar City
THESE stuff MAKE
CHANGE…
And here is a
story about TRUE practical engineer, scientist and entrepreneur:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTJt547–AM
WHO ever wrote
this I LOVE YOU!
Good luck!
World needs people like you!
29. REPLY
10/09/2013
JAY
@Wakjob – your name (user handle) fits your comment
perfectly.
As if there aren’t any non-Indian academic/research conmen.
30. REPLY
10/09/2013
LUCA BENAZZI
Professor Lee Smolin, thank you for your insightful reply. I found it
touching, and a life lesson.
I read your books and I know that your words have real value, because you are
among those who really gave a huge contribution in reminding us what are the values that a scientist can not
forget.
31. REPLY
10/09/2013
KYLE GUSTAFSON
Hello … (FeuDRenais?)
I’m also at
EPFL, having come from American academia and changed fields as a response to my
specific frustrations. Surely most of us can see where you are coming from with
your lucid manifesto against the system. I’m especially impressed to see what
appears to be the real Lee Smolin commenting on this
post. Mostly I would second his advice and sentiments.
I will add
something that a great mentor once told me: “every job has a bit of job-ness in
it,” which means that no matter what you do, no matter how much you love it, we
will all have to deal with all of the frustrations you outlined. There’s always
going to be a business aspect of anything you do – academia is not a sacred
exception, no matter how much you want it to be. It’s competitive out there,
and it always will be. Academics are probably less cutthroat and greedy on
average than most other people. Maybe the egos are big – especially when young
students believe they know the “real issues” of “important scientific value.”
But go check out the egos in the worlds of banking, commodities trading or
Silicon Valley and report back.
As for
tenure-track and statistics-based evaluations of career success and subsequent
allotment of resources: this is the best bad solution out there. The leading
alternative is a good-old boys (yes, boys) network where all that nasty
“networking” and a silver tongue are the only things that matter. Tenure-track
is much more effective than whatever they used to do.
Maybe the most
revealing thing I see in your open, anonymous, letter is how you put yourself
up against those who would let “true science” disappear in the face of
competition and human frailty. One might submit that a sacred conception of
“true science” should be replaced by a more mature understanding of scientific
research as an imperfect, flawed, but ultimately wonderful pursuit with no
guarantees but a rewarding journey.
Best wishes,
Kyle Gustafson
32. REPLY
10/09/2013
MASHA
I agree with
many of the points you make, but none of it explains why you would leave your
PhD a few months before completion.
33. REPLY
10/09/2013
ANON
@Kyle Gustafson
who the hell said that this field should be treated as
business in the first place? the fact that it’s a
mistake to treat it as business is already becoming obvious: http://www.cnbc.com/id/101012270
good luck keeping
any university open with such idiotic monetary system.
34. REPLY
10/09/2013
DAVE FERNIG
Rather depressing, but, as @Glenn
comments, it does depend on your mentoring. A lot of PhD supervisors/advisors
are in fact quite different from that described in the letter.
I would also add that @Rob has hit the nail on the head: The times they are a
changing. Far greater scrutiny of papers and public discussion is afforded by
the internet, which has led to the now abandoned “Abnormal Science” and
“Science Fraud” web sites, and what we could call “Version 2.0” in the form of
PubPeer.com. Other sites such as Retraction Watch and the many individuals blogging, etc., exert growing pressure on the
system. In a very minor way I engage in this too by blogging. I would agree
that the aspirations of science, e.g., to be self-righting, are far from being
met.
To finish. Understanding the natural world (taking
Natural Sciences in the old fashioned, broad sense) is an absolutely critical
cultural activity. To stop doing this brings us back to an age of domination by
religion and superstition, where there are no human rights, where people are
enslaved or murdered by virtue of their skin colour, gender, sexual orientation
and so on. I do not want to live there. So there is work to be done to reduce
the corruption in science, but to throw the towel in (consider, for example,
the words of Pastor Niemoller on this subject),
though understandable, is not an option.
35. REPLY
10/09/2013
CHRIS HABECK
I applaud the
author on his decision on his heart-felt and eloquent words. At one level I
totally agree with these words and have thought them myself many times.
However, I think stepping back and reflecting a bit more what kind of academia
is desirable is an enlightening exercise. Criticisms of academia like the ones
voiced by the author are easy and a priori compelling, and there are indeed
many things are wrong with academic. What would academia -ideally- look like to
avoid these problems? How should it be funded? What would be the performance
metrics to judge career success? As soon as you start reflecting on these
questions, you realize how difficult they are. It’s easy to imagine some kind
of golden age of science, but any golden age possesses features that would be
deemed very unpalatable and untenable today. In the 19th and early 20th century
for instance, access to science education and practice was extremely scarce and
mainly limited to (rich, white) men. (Marie Curie being a
very rare exception.) However, these lucky few scientists could work on
substantive issues without care or worry, and apply themselves fully without
distractions of grants, progress reports etc. Most people would probably agree
that we do not want to turn the clock back to that golden age. So how can you
accommodate vastly increased numbers of scientists and provide them with
livelihoods and meaningful job objectives? I think the answer is far from
trivial, and an uncomfortable realization is that there might be far too many of
us. Our vast numbers in a way dictate performance metrics and ever-increasing
competition for scarce government resources. I am as frustrated as the author
about some of these systemic mis-developments, but
then I compare my academic job against others, and not against some earlier
mythical version of academia. Without getting into the details – what I see is
still compelling and makes me state “This is still the best job one could wish
for.” – Also, concerning the benefits of academia to society (or lack thereof),
I would cast my net for assessing these benefits a little wider, beyond sense
or nonsense of the primary subject matter: (1) government funds could and have
been used in a more destructive way than academic research, whereas scientific
research at least does not cause any net harms, (2) education almost always has
positive side effects and creates open minds with benefits for society at
large, (3) scientific research brings secondary advances in technology and
computing etc. and (4) simulates the economy at large in form of conferences,
travel, accommodation etc. – Again, I am not saying academia cannot be
improved, far from it. Exploitative practices of overwork and stealing credit,
in a way, are straightforward to fix. But then they are other improvements that
might be harder for consensus formation and implementation. I urge you to stay
on, complete your thesis and contribute to this improvement of academia in the
future! Best wishes – Chris Habeck
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23/03/2016
ANDREW BUCKLEY
Hi Chris. You make a very good point about the number of
scientists. One solution is to spend less money funding massive infrastructure,
and preferentially fund the brains inside the skulls of creative human beings.
Some of the most significant advances made in academia (talking ever) have been
made in mathematics – minimal equipment required. The point is not that math is
superior, but that understanding (when truly invested in) can take us a long
way, without fancy equipment. What we lack in modern science is an insistence
on deep understanding and comprehension of the core principles underpinning
one’s field.
36. REPLY
10/09/2013
FEUDRENAIS
Thanks to
everyone for their comments. Quick update and some replies:
– I learned
today that EPFL blocked this letter from getting out to the students, which is
unfortunate, since I think most have seen it anyway (thanks to the few
professors who did forward this to their groups). Thankfully, I’ve got a date
with the dean next Friday and suppose that I can ask him why they chose to
censor in a little tête-à-tête
– I did not do my PhD in compsci (don’t know where
this idea came from), but in optimization, which is a great topic and of great
practical interest. Those who wrote to say that I’m frustrated because I did
not like my topic… are wrong. I absolutely love what I
do. Also, while my field of science is relevant, it seems that these problems
are quite widespread (based on the replies I’ve received).
– People who want to meet to discuss in person (e.g., “Rob”), or who want to
continue this discussion via other means… Gladly, if time allows (please don’t
write very long e-mails, because it’ll take some time for me to reply to
these). If you are mildly skilled in Google, then you should have no problem
finding my real identity. I’m not going to publicize it, but I don’t feel
particularly compelled to hide it, either (thanks, Pascal, for doing so,
however – I don’t know how you got the letter).
– To people urging me to stay in academia/science (including Lee Smolin!), I essentially agree with you. However, this is
the question of whether you want to fight the monster from the inside of its
belly or from the outside. Both are valid. What I am essentially leaving is the
Western academic system, and NOT science (the two are not the same, alas). I
plan to remain in science and I plan to be very active in science, and this is
not precluded by leaving academia. Specifically, I hope to promote good
research/science in developing nations, where the local “academia” is not the
academia that I’m writing about here (as they have much more serious problems
than the pure lack of ethics/responsibility that I wrote about here). I want it
to be very clear to people that I’m not simply “giving up” (i.e., you don’t
need to encourage me, though I appreciate it anyway :-)).
– Finally, in looking back at this letter, I realize that it was written in a
very negative tone (well, it is a letter about frustrations, after all… I could
write another about academia’s good points, though it’d be slightly shorter). I
would like to clarify that this was a calm decision made over the course of
several weeks, and that I used three months to reflect on it before taking a
few days to draft the letter. It wasn’t an “oh-my-God-I-can’t-take-it-anymore!”
thing where I snapped and decided to write something crazy, though I realize
that many people could get this impression (first drafts are never perfect).
Anyway, thanks
to everyone for the discussion, which I hope will spread a bit further. I did
not think that this letter would have the impact that it is already having.
37. REPLY
10/09/2013
ASHUTOSH GUPTA
This letter
raises true concerns about the world of academia. However, analysis in the
letter is very week.
If I would think
that academia has serious problems then I will stay and try to lead it to
better direction instead of quitting.
May be the
author has more balanced view in comparison to the letter.
38. REPLY
10/09/2013
ANON
@Ashutosh GUPTA
oh man it is very week and a month as well….
Your argument is
just invalid… stick with a bunch of mercenaries and claim that you can change
them is just a silly idea. Rather than moving away and trying to build your own
path that truly pushes research stick around and do the same crap they’re doing
while hoping one day things would be different… as far as I know if he sticks
around NO ONE would allow him to change anything and therefore, the option he
chose is quite the best I believe.
39. REPLY
10/09/2013
FILIP VERCRUYSSE
The chap is
really accurate in his analysis. I share his concerns! Coming up with solutions
is important though, of course, creating awareness is the first step.
What’s the point
of the champions league football or to become an olympic athlete? All these sacrifices,
and this to prove you can control a ball or run at 23 km/h average for 26 min?
They do it of course because they like it, maybe even for the challenge, to see
how far they can push it, to understand the limits of their physical and mental
powers. As a pleasant side effect they might bring joy to other people as well,
or to inspire them for similar positive activities.
To understand
how a single cell works, even a single protein is so incredibly challenging
that, no matter which method we use, we will never understand. We will never be
able to run at 27 km/h for 26 minutes, no matter which training method. In a
similar fashion we might never be able to grasp the complexity of a single
cell. So, let’s still run, maybe dream of that 27 km/h, and enjoy it on the
way. Let’s do science, focus on the fun of the learning experience, enjoy
working together with young and motivated people and as a side effect, I’m sure
we’ll be able to bring some extra life quality to the society.
40. REPLY
10/09/2013
STEPHEN J. CROTHERS
Dear Pascal (FeuDRenais),
Everything you
have said about Academia is true. Vilification aimed at you in terms of
“burnout” and “bitter” etc. are common dishonest methods of distracting from
the facts.
I have
experienced similar things as you, at the PhD level. Academia is just as
corrupt as any other club. Society has been duped into the false belief that
scientists are, ipso facto, smart and honest people searching for truth.
Nothing can be further from the truth. The methods of politics and organised crime
are routinely employed by Academia just as in industry and government. For
instance, the people at the LHC at CERN now plan to build the International
Linear Collider, to cost taxpayers somewhere between $20 and $25 billion US
dollars. Add to that the money for operations. This is sinecure employment for
those in the club. No doubt the industrial and other companies which will get
the building contracts are rubbing their hands together with glee. Vested
interest lurks.
Academia has no
monopoly on science. Academia however, controls the major journals, the
institutes and universities, and the money. It is money that is in the end the
main objective of Academia. Social status, reputation and all that comes with
it is reinforcement to the main objective.
Keep doing
science. A PhD is not necessary. A fancy office is not necessary. Lunching with
professors is not necessary. Oliver Heaviside had no need of any of it. Nor do we.
Kind regards,
Stephen J. Crothers
41. REPLY
10/09/2013
THERE IS NO
SPOON...
‘So how can you
accommodate vastly increased numbers of scientists and provide them with
livelihoods and meaningful job objectives?’
Here are a few
thoughts:
*Sack those
responsible for the current situation [i.c. current
professors with tenure, managers, editorial members of journals, presidents of
societies, big publisheres, etc.]? (assuming they are partly responsible for the current
situation, sackging them could possibly lead to
improvements in and of itself. Also for instance take into account the
pay-check these professors, or bureaucrats at
universities have: seems plausible that you could hire 3, 4, 5, maybe even
more, young scientists for the same amount of money)
*Sack the tons
of bureaucrats that are present in today’s academia? (so
money can be saved to actually hire scientists, and perform research optimally)
*Decrease no. of
students that are taught? (so there will become a more
balanced situation regarding future open positions and applicants)
*Teach things
correctly and trythfully? (so
students can decide upfront whether they want to study something given the
state of things which they will encounter once they finish their study)
*Stop fooling
the general public, phd students, students, and also yourself ? (the last part is
perhaps most important, but perhaps also most difficult…)
42. REPLY
10/09/2013
HELENA
Incredibly accurate. This is why I won’t start a PhD project, having two
master’s degrees. Science isn’t objective anymore and we’re losing objectivity
to economic dragons.
We do actually
not need a long discussion on it. We only need to look at the ‘phenonena’ around us. Fellow scientists: take a look at our
audience, the world. It had lost fate in science. Which to me
says: we doing it wrong.
43. REPLY
10/09/2013
NAMENAME
A few comments
claim that what the author is encountering in academia they will encounter equally
everywhere else.
Of course that is true and nobody would deny that.
The problem, in my opinion, is that academia – seen as an economy – is highly
unregulated as another commenter has pointed out.
The small
(usually young but you also see tons of ‘failed’ ones that do postdocs well
into their 40s) academics have absolutely zero rights nor
labour-style protection whatsoever:
(i) Work hours are completely unregulated.
(ii) Job security is nonexistent: While in the free
economy a lot of entry-level jobs are temporary (by far not all), in academia
everything is temporary right up to the point where you’re awarded tenure (by
which time most academics today will be well over 40).
(iii) Salaries, for the small academics, are a complete and utter joke.
If academia is
like any other economy (as some commenters suggest – oddly enough most of these
appear to be senior academics that are likely quite contend with their income
and job security) then where are the labour unions that will bring absolutely
all academia-related activities to a standstill when administrations don’t
deliver hefty wage increases?
Where are the law suits of mistreated workers (small academics) bringing down
entire administrations?
How would some of the more settled (tenured) commenters like their costs of
operating their labs doubled or tripled because their students suddenly demand
higher salaries and regulated working hours?
The big
difference between academia and industry (and this is the major reason for me
to quit academia soon – likely after I finish my PhD) is that the above three
points are built into the system.
This is how academia has been designed, this is how it works, and while a lot
of people complain about it, everyone respects and adheres to these points.
Depending on
where I go after my time in academia, I am likely to encounter some of the
points the author laments (after all this is human nature) but at least – for
the majority of economies out there – I will be protected from the above three
points by law.
I will be able to start a proper life, and enjoy the quality of life that I
believe I deserve.
44. REPLY
10/09/2013
EX-GRAD
@Michael Toomim: sorry, but dropping out after YEARS because you
don’t “believe in the degree” anymore (whatever that means) is really lame.
I’ve been there. I was ready to drop out month before my defense
because my supervisor is a huge jerk (and incompetent and has illusions of
grandeur) and I finished. Not because I “believe” in any degree but because
it’s silly to drop out when you are finally at the end. It’s like running a
marathon but refusing to cross the finish line within a meter of it because you
“don’t believe in marathon”. I bet you feel like you are “sticking it to the
man” but you are not. No one cares. Someone else will publish your research, the world will continue to turn. you are not a hero nor a rebel.
45. REPLY
10/09/2013
LE DUDE
All of what the
author describes is true. And there is a very perverse incentive system in
place in current academia.
However, the
author also suffers from the backlash of an apparently once held illusion that
Beautiful Superior Academia was so much better than the little people just
earning their daily bread outside of academia, which is now shattered, as (s)he discovers that, lo and behold, incompetence is
everywhere, and that Academia is not the pond where the Swans of Human
Intelligence gather to create a better world, but instead contains people that
are fallible.
I’ve been there
myself, and I call it the Third Depression of the PhD (the first one being the
I Know Nothing, the second one being The Big Lull, and the last one being the
meta one: What Am I Doing This For?)
But like I said,
(s)he has a point, and most of the above can be traced back to (a) wrong
incentives, and (b) too many people going through university and into PhDs –
which is perhaps also related to (a). I remember when a professor had max 1 or
2 PhD students and perhaps a postdoc. And things were more relaxed and papers
more thorough. And all those problems are well-known (even though they go
un-addressed).
But it’s not
like all the Old Research was Good Research. Far from it.
46. REPLY
10/09/2013
FEUDRENAIS
One final point, and a very important one as many people seem to have
this misconception:
My advisors were
reasonably good, and I don’t want people assuming that I’m complaining about my
own bad experiences with bad advisors. As I said in the letter, I am not
pointing fingers at anyone – these are conclusions reached after four years of
study and conversations, and are quasi-objective as they reflect a multitude of
opinions. I should have emphasized this in the letter, but didn’t due to lack
of foresight.
47. REPLY
10/09/2013
LIFE ISN'T FAIR
Yawn. If you
were paying any attention at all, you should have realized this before you came
to graduate school, or at least within the first couple years. Surprise! All
human endeavours are plagued by egoism, greed, and ambition. And on top of it
we get paid badly. Why, then, are so many people still going to grad school,
despite the bleak prospects? For many it is because it is worth it to obtain
the academic freedom to study the things that you want to study. For still
others, it is because they are naive and delusional and think somehow they
deserve better – that academia has wronged them and their absurd expectations
of it. Somehow I think you fall into the latter group. Academia has it’s problems, but they are
well-known to anyone paying any attention at all. I refuse to believe that you
were mere months away from successfully finishing your Ph.D. and you’re simply
dropping out in protest of the system. You’re either lying, and there is some
other reason you’re not finishing, or you’re just as big an egoist as everyone
else, assuming that your tragic self-sacrifice will matter to anyone at all. It
won’t.
I don’t mean to
dismiss the accusation that there are problems with academia. I mean to dismiss
your holier-than-thou attitude where you hold it up to these ridiculous
standards and feel victimized when it doesn’t meet them.
48. REPLY
11/09/2013
JULIETTE
To the author of
this text, if you ever read this:
I have completed
a PhD in Genomics in the US and I completely agree with what you wrote (though
I still think that in between all this mess, there are still some interesting
things being produced – but yeah, science is a huge and heavy system, so, like
for any such system, it’s hard to bring novel things in – reading Kuhn’s
Structure of Scientific Revolutions helped me a lot to understand this better
and to come to peace with all this). Shouldn’t we gather people who also think
this way and start a discussion to try to figure out what can be done to
improve this? And write a paper about it, ahah No kidding, something needs to be done! Contact
me if you are interested: juliette.colinas@gmail.com
Best wishes,
Juliette
49. REPLY
11/09/2013
GRANT
Great letter! I
have touched on all of these topics in conversations with the other grad
students in my program at one time or another. Many people feel this way.
To everyone
saying “stay and fight the system from within,” who determines whether you get
to a place where you can effect change or not? The answer is those who have
already succeeded in the current system (who judge you based on their
experiences) and administrators who only glance at your publication list and
the amount of grant money you have won them.
This is the
problem with so-called “meritocracies.” Who determines what “merit” is and
whether you have it? The ones at the top with merit, of
course. Sure, someone could publish meaningless crap until they get
tenure and then (if the system hasn’t changed them and they remain determined
to change it) embark on a 10-year project and publish their failures, will they
get grants? Will they get students/postdocs? Will they be able to afford new
instrumentation? The chemicals? Labor
intensive, original, high risk/high reward projects are simply not possible
without a dedicated philanthropic or corporate sugar daddy (or mama).
I’m not cut out
for academics, I’m “too honest,” not competitive enough, and I care more about
quality of my papers than quantity. Recently, I’ve been looking into science
policy. I’m planning on finishing up in two years, but we’ll see…. now the only
thing motivating me is the opportunities that come with a PhD, or at least
that’s what I tell myself.
50. REPLY
11/09/2013
MICHAEL
The author of
this letter makes many valid points. The criticisms will certainly ring true
for many PhD candidates, myself included. I have
worked through my PhD and then spent some years in academia, in industrial
research, and now in a commercial R&D position. In my opinion the author
has in parts confused things that they were “sold on” with assumptions that the
author and many students make about academia.
I think there is
a lot in this letter worth debating and trying to improve. This is a continual
process in my experience in institutions in multiple countries. There is no
perfect system.
Additionally, I
think this letter is an indication of many failures. Failure
of the advisor(s) to communicate; failure of the system; failure of the student
to understand their own motivations and goals. Putting aside the
funding/management critiques, the author seems to have missed a fundamental but
difficult part of academia and scientific research: it is a human activity. As
such, there is a need to communicate and convince other people about the merits
of your ideas and work. In many technical fields it is easy for people to fall
into the belief that good work, good science will
speak for itself. The truth is that it can only speak for itself if you can get
people to pay attention to the work. This requires communication, persuasion,
education, lobbying, networking, and a whole raft of interpersonal
interactions. These human qualities can be negatively ascribed, but in my
thinking… without communication there would be no science.
It is also a
myth that there was a golden age where grants and funding were not needed.
Scientific work has always required patrons. As romantic as the image of a lone
tinkerer who solves a great problem is, the reality is that those are very rare
stories. The rarity and the greatness of the achievement is what makes them memorable. Today’s patrons are universities,
grant councils, and the occasional company. In the 1800’s it was professional
societies, grand challenges, and government prizes/stipends that funded
research.
I hope the
author finds a path that satisfies their goals.
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23/03/2016
ANDREW BUCKLEY
I think the
emphasis which is placed on communicating ideas in postgraduate-“help” seminars
is generally shallow and backward. It teaches people how to simplify and
eliminate substance, rather than actually communicate with a rigour and clarity
that others learned in their field will respect enough to read twice.
51. REPLY
11/09/2013
UCHICAGO GRAD
I agree with
what he has to say. Unless you are into economics or business management, you
won’t be in a position of power in the current capitalist system. STEM also has
stopped making huge leaps and most research lately has been happening in
smaller (and apparently useless) increments. Thus, academics have been fighting
harder to secure what’s left of scientific research potential. Nevertheless,
graduate students are at the receiving end of this ponzi-scheme-like-PhD-system,
where about 15 PhDs are produced for every faculty position.
52. REPLY
11/09/2013
BIG FAN
@ex-grad Actually, ex-grad, I believe the author is a hero. There is
nothing more important in life that standing up in what you believe. And to
take your analogy, if as you are running a marathon, you realize that the event
is morally corrupt and bankrupt, than not crossing the finish lines does make
you a hero. Maybe the event will keep going but then again maybe not, maybe
some of the other runners will take a long hard look and wonder why you didn’t
cross the finish line, maybe this will spark a discussion and maybe just maybe,
there are enough runners that agree with you and look up to what you did that
the event will be changed one day down the line.
This author
refuses to accept an award (the Ph.D degree) from an
institution (academia) that he considers to be bankrupt. I agree with
everything the author said and more. I am just extremely disapointed
at myself for not having seen it all this clearly earlier. It took a Master’s
degree, a Ph.D degree and a post-doc at the best
institutions in the world, until I started to see academia for what it is: a
paper publishing business driven mostly by people who care nothing for the
advancement of knowledge. We have to understand the current crisis in Academia
as directly related to the ever expanding ever pervasive neo-liberal paradygm. It is this paradygm
that has linked grants to numbers of publications that now drives this
relentless pursuit. We have in effect created a currency (papers) that is
simply not tied to any real work-value and most definetely
not tied to our ultimate goal, namely the advancement of knowledge. Dishonest
elements are accumulating wealth by whatever means at their disposal for
selfish reasons and are driving a race to the bottom, even by the most honest
elements. At least the corporate world is honest about its ultimate goal,
namely generating wealth for shareholders. This is a full
fledged crisis. The most discerning already see
it.
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23/03/2016
ANDREW BUCKLEY
Spot on. These problems are very much manifestations of a poisonous
neo-liberal agenda, hell-bent on measuring everything trivial, and holding
everyone powerless to account. Sadly, most scientists don’t take the
time to learn about the monetary system, or the (few, and select) coherent
economic theories which make sense of the never ending budget crises. It’s not
their job to do that though, and their job has become somewhat time consuming…
53. REPLY
11/09/2013
H. C.
‘. And to take
your analogy, if as you are running a marathon, you realize that the event is
morally corrupt and bankrupt, than not crossing the finish lines does make you
a hero. ‘
I heard from
people in the Netherlands (where Didrik Stapel, infamous social psychologist data-faker is from)
that universities receive a large amount of money over there for every phd student that succesfully ‘crosses the finish line’. If you really want
to take a stand, quit while you’re just about to finish your phd in the Netherlands: that would
really drive the message home over there…
54. REPLY
11/09/2013
PERA DETLIC
Reading about
history of molecular biology, one can find that in the early days (60’s) a
mentor was on PhD student’s paper only if (s)he actually contributed to the
work; in other words, advising/mentoring was done to educate the next
generation, not to boost your own career, since (being a mentor) you should be
already established enough. One can think why are things
different today….
Furthermore,
imagine how would the authorship of Watson and Crick’s paper look like in
contemporary science:
“Molecular
Structure of Nucleic Acids: A Structure for Deoxyribose Nucleic Acid”
JD Watson*, FHC
Crick*, Max Perutz, John Kendrew and Lawrence Bragg°
*These authors
contributed equally
°Corresponding author
55. REPLY
11/09/2013
K. B.
Hello,
I am an ex-
research master student from the Netherlands.
The system in the Netherlands is even more money driven, some universities have
almost become PhD factories (due to the arrangement H.C. mentioned).
Publication quotas are also regularly applied. If they are not met, end of
contract.
It is sometimes even the case that bachelor and master students are used for
gathering data, writing parts of publications, or as input for new ideas as
part of their ‘’thesis supervision’’. Often a simple acknowledgment on the
bottom of an article is what they get in return when their work is published. I
have also had courses in my master where I was taught how to ‘’sell’’ science.
My thoughts however always were: I don’t want to sell science,
I want to be a scientist… Furthermore, in my opinion no personal financial
security can be achieved as a scientist unless you publish, and the way you
publish is by doing safe research (as is described in the wonderfully bold
letter above).
Luckily I
figured out all this even before I started my PhD, I am truly very sorry for
the author that he or she only found it out after all these years of hard work.
Keep spreading
this message, things will hopefully change! However, always try to keep in mind
the good guys who are still hanging in there to give academia some glance.
In the words of
Albert Einstein:
”science is a wonderful thing if one does not have to earn one’s living at it.”
56. REPLY
11/09/2013
LE DUDE
Another comment. Sorry it’s a bit long:
You can’t only
rely on vocation. That is typically what all people in underpaid parts of the
educational system say. You also can’t over-incentivise, because then you may
attract the wrong sort of people. But the advantages of an academic job are
becoming rather limited, apart from potential tenure, and flexibility. But the truth
is, I believe, mainly the over-influx, creating a true pyramid. When I say to
colleagues “it’s a waste of money to get someone to do a PhD when in the end it
just turns out to have been a very expensive 4-year assessment for a private
sector job”, then they reply that it’s also about educating people, training
them to be independent. Now, apart from the fact that I believe there are many
other ways in which to achieve independence, I think the problem with this is
that *this is not just a project* – this is actual scientific advancement we’re
talking about! Because that scientific advancement is sacrificed to the
“training” of these people, and to people who absolutely need to get jobs. So
in that the author is very much correct.
But (s)he goes through a lot of twists and turns to point out the
core problem, namely that too many people enter academia because it is made too
easy. In Belgium I remember vividly that at one point the Flemish National
Science Foundation decided to get rid of its tenured scientists (they had to be
paid by the universities instead), and invest in young people. What that means
is simply the same as in the private sector: for the price of 1 old fart we can
pay 4 young people. It is the business model that got put into science. The
underlying idea was probably that the cream would float to the top. But at what cost. There is obviously the personal and
societal, financial cost. But most importantly the cost is in the scientific
quality!
What are the
reasons for tenure. The most important one frequently
quoted is that without tenure no senior scientist would have any incentive to
train a good younger one, since it’s one who can take his job. The only way to
get the system to generate excellence is if it poses no threat to those established.
But the other reason is that in principle, tenure should allow you to research
even the most outrageous paths, and thoroughly, because you don’t have to
“prove” yourself, and scientists are supposed to be in
it for the search itself. Having to “proving yourself” is *always* destined to
have people look at how to maximise the output rather than the process (since
the process isn’t measured).
Which bizarrely brings us to money. Frequent evaluations of individuals,
faculties, etc, and obviously the FUNDING that
depends on all that, has meant that scientists have to be continuously on their
toes. Your faculty’s publications (recently Dorothy Bishop showed that for all
the complex paper work, the UK’s REF’s outcomes are surprisingly well predicted
by publication metric alone) will decide what state funding you’ll get (output
per dollar, you know). And obviously with personal grants you’ll only get them
when you have enough publications. Recently a colleague remarked that perhaps
it would be more time-efficient if instead of writing grants for personnel, a
fraction of which gets accepted, we would actually do the research ourselves
and spend the time writing papers, the scientific output might be higher and
more qualitative. And I think he was right.
And indeed, we
perhaps need a justification for the tax money we’re getting. But.
And here comes
the evil combo: if you measure scientific output, you can’t measure scientific
“success” only. Which brings us to the bias towards
publishing only novel first-time findings. This seems unrelated, but it
isn’t. If and only IF it would be as easy to get published with replications or
null findings, THEN it would make sense to “count” publications to get an idea
of the amount of work being done, without it being detrimental to good science.
So in a
nutshell: (1) there’s too many people entering academia at the bottom, and (2)
the time spent writing the grants to pay them could better be spent on research
by the senior scientist, who doesn’t have to learn via mistakes on the back of
science, (3) also, with all these young researchers, both these young people
AND the tenured people are under much more pressure to publish (to get jobs and
to get the next grant for students, respectively), (4) which in itself wouldn’t
be a problem, if the science being done would be the science seeing the light
of day, but instead there’s a publication bias.
The solutions
are twofold, and not one is sufficient:
– Remove the publication bias. That way, we might end up with a system whereby
measuring “output” does not conflict with scientific practice.
– Put less emphasis on the ability to secure grants and managing others (with
job insecurity) doing research, and more on research output from the tenured
researchers. (Dorothy Bishop once made this point)
So there it is.
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23/03/2016
ANDREW BUCKLEY
While I don’t
entirely agree that those two solutions are together sufficient, I do think
you’re on the money with young people publishing. It is a great shame that many
scientists with decades of experience eventually become so burnt out, by the
constant carnival of self-justification, that they become managers.
Unfortunately though, I fear that the intellect does not develop as effectively
under constant pressure, and so a decade’s experience in today’s environment
counts for less understanding than it used to
57. REPLY
11/09/2013
PHDCANDIDATE1
“(7) Academia: The Violent Land of Giant Egos
I often wonder if many people in academia come from insecure childhoods where
they were never the strongest or the most popular among their peers, and, having
studied more than their peers, are now out for revenge.”
I think this misses the point and is simply a bit
nasty. This is what I think of the Giant Egos: You don’t get much feedback in
research. Especially as a PhD candidate, you are responsible for producing all
the failures in order to have a few successes that are actually a research
outcome. People that are OK with this fact are the ones that either managed to
construct or already have had a giant ego. Hence, professors/advisors have
giant egos. Which then again keeps them from giving feedback,
because who would need it, they themselves didn’t need it, so what.
Those with realistic egos quit academia before or after the PhD.
Most research is not important. Or at least: You
never know. It may become important 2 years later, or 20. There are two
strategies to cope with it: Either, you keep telling yourself, that you are the
center of the universe with your research, turning
yourself into a person hardly anybody from outside academia wants to deal with
– I’m sure you can find this in people surrounding you. Or you accept that what
you do is your research job and that it probably will never change the world
for good – but then you’re on the leave for something already, either before or
right after your PhD.
58. REPLY
11/09/2013
SHANKHA
So True. For years, I had this feeling inside me. So great to
finally see someone else resonate the same.
59. REPLY
11/09/2013
SASCHA
10 years ago, a
post-doc at our insititute tried to publish the below
“paper” about his view on academia:
“What do astrophysics and the world’s oldest profession have in common?.”
It basically expresses the same thoughts as that letter above. he was a great guy and we felt pity that he left soon after.
http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0310368
60. REPLY
11/09/2013
BBQ
I am a Professor
at the same institution as the author of the letter – and I received it by
email. If forwarded it to my PhD students, who did not receive it, so as to
generate a debate but also to make sure they were not hiding similar
frustration. Some did; we talked it through, as openly as possible.
When I was a PhD
student myself, I never experienced these feelings. But since I’ve become a
Faculty member, and despite the big fat cheque at the end of month (sorry to be
blunt), I got frustrated to a point you cannot even start to grasp, mostly
because of the system described rather accurately in the letter. I do not agree
with all your points, but I certainly follow on the main aspects.
Yet, I cannot
help but thinking that resigning, as I often think I should do and as you
propose, is a good idea. If you spot a problem, you should solve it. If you
turn your back, the problem will stay there. Another commenter below put it
more accurately than I could “You are the future young professors”. Get your
diploma, become a faculty member and do your work every day making sure you
apply the strong sense of ethics you display in your message. Then educate the
next generation until there are enough smart guys to change this. In the end,
the one true value of Academia, is the passion you put
in when you joined. Don’t let others still that from you,
fight for it. It won’t be easy, but it will work.
I guess most PhD
students realize that a lot of this negative pressure falls onto young professors
for all the bad reasons. I’ve been the head of our doctoral program and,
lately, I had to moderate many situations in which a young professor was
“milking” PhD students to produce papers. I want to make it clear to all the
young people reading this, that this is NOT what a PhD is. It is not what you
should expect from your advisor. If this happens to you, there are MANY senior
faculty members to whom you can talk and who will go out of their way to help
you. I did, many times. As a professor I can fell this pressure every day:
papers, grants, h-index, impact factor, quantity over quality, no one cares
about my teaching, about the depth of the problems I solve, it is all
superficial. But I always make sure none of this gets over to my students. And
when I get depressed, and that is too often these days, I take time to think of
all the good reasons that took me to Academia. I go at my whiteboard, pick up a
pen and shout “Fç*%ç*% it! Let me do exactly what I
think is worth.” (note: yes, we Professors do
swear ).
I would like to
end by stating that if any PhD student (at EPFL or elsewhere) want to talk it
through, I am there to help.
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11/09/2013
STEPHEN J. CROTHERS
@ Sascha
I note the paper
by Martin Lopez Corredoira you have referred to. It
was published in the book, ‘Against the Tide. A Critical
Review by Scientists of How Physics and Astronomy Get Done’, edited by Corredoira and Carlos Castro-Perelman, of which I have a
copy. I wrote a chapter for that book, at the invitation of Corredoira. Castro-Perelman significantly altered my
chapter without my permission, because he did not like what I had to say since
it had certain impact on his own work. When I discovered this I protested. Corredoira sided with Castro-Perelman and in doing so
committed offences which he has himself complained about and which the
aforementioned book professes to criticise. No other author for the book had
their chapter altered by anybody. As I would not allow Castro-Perelman’s
alterations to go unchallenged, Corredoira and
Castro-Perelman excluded my chapter from the book. The point is that those who
complain of malfeasance and dishonesty in science often change sides when they
find it to their benefit. They then become part of the problem.
Stephen J.
Crothers
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11/09/2013
EMPATHETIC PHD
@FeuDRenais
I’m so sorry to
hear about your struggles. You are not alone in this. Your comments truly
capture the terrible side of academia. After completing my PhD at a top
academic institute, publishing highly cited papers in a hot new field, I too
stepped away from academia for the same reasons.
Unfortunately I
discovered that no system is perfect, and those of us who want stay in research
(at least in the life sciences) are faced with a challenge. In my job search,
I’ve found these negative attitudes across all types of research institutes
(academic, pharma, biotechs).
Perhaps because all the researchers have been trained in a broken academic
system! But more likely, it seems like an inevitable outcome, when the drive to
be creative (and produce something of value) comes up against the needs to make
a living, and the survival needs win.
I do have hope
though.
Your letter is a
first step in establishing that hope. By taking the provocative step by sending
it out, you’ve brought awareness to a deep issue. Admitting the problem is the
first step in solving it.
Seeing that we
have a choice is another step towards hope. Dear author, you’ve exercised that
choice by telling your story and choosing to follow another passion. For those
who want to stay in academia, there is still a choice. We may not be able to
exercise our choice on the level of helping patients or receiving grant money,
but we can choose to carry ourselves with integrity and live the academic
system the way we believe it should be. We can choose between writing an honest
peer review and writing a harshly critical one. We can choose to mentor others
who are in need, rather than letting them flounder and have their talents go to
waste. By fostering hope on a small-scale, it will naturally emanate outward to
bring hope to the whole system.
I also believe
that academia could thrive with a change in perspective. It’s false and painful
to believe that resources are limiting. Money is just paper! The resources are
there, and if we focus on creating value for others, the resources will flow
in. It likely won’t happen as cleanly or easily as this sounds, but overall, if
there’s something of value, people will pay. If we engage the public, educate
them on the importance of basic research, and show patient groups how we’re
contributing to their well-being, support for research will be there.
My hope is that
all scientists will find their voice and bring to light their struggles, and
share them with each other so that we can become stronger as a community. And
for those without a mentor, know there are others willing to help. I am.
So dear author,
I wish you all the best in your career pursuits. Your willingness to rock the
boat and change the system are admirable. You’ve listened
to your heart, you’ve spoken out, and you will do well.
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11/09/2013
RONALD
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Ordnung_des_Diskurses
very interesting to read about scientific discourse and controll
from michel foucault, as inauguration lecture at the collège de france 1970
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11/09/2013
-
Blame it on
“academia”, when the problem is really extreme individualism, materialism, lack
of solidarity, and anti-societal attitude. This same cancer is spreading in
about every single human activity.
That’s what you
get after so many years of ultraliberal capitalism that doesn’t offer anything
to man but material and gadjets.
Try to imagine a
context where the very notion of an “economy” would be as obsolete and
abstract, as it really is today due to the technological advances that we dont want to realize. As religion, the economy is a
man-made notion designed to face the issues of the era it saw it develloped. It has nothing to do in a context where the
original issues have become irrelevant.
And then imagine
your own place and freedom in this world, i hope it makes you feel better.
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11/09/2013
BARBECUE
@BBQ
I am a Professor at the same institution and I forwarded the letter to my PhD students
as well. I also see your point concerning the pressure passed on by the “young
professors”. Yet, I do not reach the same pessimistic conclusion. Our
institution is still very much in transition and a lot depends how the dean of
the respective school is handling such situations. As long as I have colleagues
like you, who genuinely care about students and serve as role models for
others, I know that I am at the right place. You are the “future dean”!
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11/09/2013
RESEARCHER
I’m a recent PhD
graduate, and I must say I recognized the author’s complaints only because
they’re frequently aired in discussion forums like this.
During my
studies and now my post-doc work, I never felt the same way the author does.
I’m sorry that he got such a bad experience of academic work. It’s not always
and everywhere like that. I love my work (it’s a huge department), I think my
work is somewhat important, I can focus on publishing only high quality texts
and not look at numbers, my colleagues are fantastic people with quite few ego
games, PhD students are treated as colleagues, good teaching matters, and
originality is highly valued. The only thing I can feel similar about is the
“management” part: too much of professors’ and faculty time goes into
administration and management.
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11/09/2013
FEUDRENAIS
@Life isn’t
fair:
If you want to
live in a world where everything is sh*t and all
those who don’t see/accept that are naive idiots, then you have that right. But
most of us don’t live there and don’t want to live there. So don’t drag us in.
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11/09/2013
VILLAREJO
I’m in favour of
getting something constructive done from this interesting discussion.
Maybe coordination first?
@Juliette: “juliette.colinas at gmail.com”.
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12/09/2013
DANIEL
“Frustra fit per plura quod potets fieri per pauciora”
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12/09/2013
EWAN CAMERON
This letter is
(unfortunately) bang on the money as far as my own experiences go! What’s even
worse is that I’m pretty sure the author is from a different scientific field
to me; that is, these problems are indeed those of academia in general, not
some small part of it.
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12/09/2013
ANDREEA
I am one of those people who loves science but hates the system. Before
starting a PhD I actually considered not doing so because of the system the
letter describes. But then I have thought to myself: nothing will ever change
if the people that hate the system abandon it. And then I entered a PhD and I
am still sucking through it until I will get into the position to decide
otherwise. In the meantime, I am trying to change things as a student
representative. And things are changing. Slowly. I
found that things change faster if enough people stick together and demand
change together. This is why I agree with @Rob, @Dave Fernig,
@Lee Smolin, @Julliette
: it is not a solution to throw in the towel, because we need people
like you. But I also understand that you choose to fight from outside the
system. For me it does not matter as long as we are fighting for the same
things But you know, a wise person once
said: “Reasonable people adapt themselves to their environment. Unreasonable
people adapt their environment to themselves. Hence all progress depends on
unreasonable people.” I just believe that you are the right kind of
unreasonable person. BTW: kudos for leaving the system creating such a roar.
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12/09/2013
MICHAEL
“(2) Academia:
Work Hard, Young Padawan, So That One Day You Too May
Manage!”
The wrong conclusion is drawn.
The correct
reason for managing prof’s, slaving PHD’s is: Prof’s
know the greater community. They know what questions still exist, and are best
answered now. PHD’s don’t know this. PHD’s know how to find answers. But they
don’t yet know what the important questions are.
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12/09/2013
CYTOPOLIS
Thanks to both you gentlemen for
writing and posting this. I believe that many of us who have touched upon
scientific research around the globe can recognize several of the points raised
here.
I agree with the good ideas suggested
in the above comment by @Alfred Charles and I applaud the brave spirit in the
comment by @Rob from ETH Zürich.
We are some that support the
following movements as (probably imperfect) solutions to these well known problems in academia:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_science
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIYbio
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen_science
I myself is active in the Copenhagen
DIYbio lab: biologigaragen.org/
and in the Copenhagen makerspace: labitat.dk/
In Europe, the DIYbiologists are organized
here: http://www.diybio.eu/
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12/09/2013
SOCIOLOGIST
I don’t know
where this ideal of high and pure science is coming from. Sociologists of
science have, since the 1970s, shown that science has never been “pure”, and
that the aura of holiness has never existed. I’m sorry that you had a weird,
unrealistic idea of science free of impurities and flaws, and that you got
disappointed. I guess universities are partly to blame for keeping the tale
alive. Science is human activity and in the baggage comes many “impure” things
that you dislike.
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12/09/2013
BEYOND SCIENCE
Any social science/humanities PhDs/Academics out there? Surely the
problems are even worse with these disciplines, where, unlike Science, there
may not be an objective truth to be pursued?
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12/09/2013
BBQ
@barbecue thanks
for your kind words. I really didn’t want to blame young professors, don’t get
me wrong. Those on tenure track feel an incredible pressure and, quite
unfortunately, that pressure is often carried over to students. I think young
professors simply need mentors, coaching. I was myself an assistant professor
not so long ago and I made mistakes: no one ever taught me how to be a thesis
advisor. But then I was lucky to have older colleagues who gave me good
advices, and I was clever enough to listen. It is my time to give advices now –
I find it natural and I am positive we can change things slowly (agonizingly
slowly) this way.
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12/09/2013
VSONICV
Do you know what’s the similarity between research and shitting? First,
both need papers. Second, the papers are full of shit~XD
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12/09/2013
SUN KWOK
The system of grants and overheads
has greatly corrupted our value as scientists. The definition of success has
changed to being able to generate the most amount of money, managing the
largest number of people, and having the most power in committees. A true
scientist has to be true to his/her own values and be tough enough to stand in
front of a bandwagon.
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12/09/2013
FEUDRENAIS
Theorem: BBQ is
awesome.
Proof: Above comments. Q.E.D.
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12/09/2013
FERNANDO
This is a cool
read, and I can share many of the concerns stated. But it is really a rant-list
and its loss of objectivity is self-evident as you read further into it. It
focuses on the worst aspects of academia and it tries to portray them as
representative of the most, which I think is very misleading. Problems with academia? Yes, many. What the author seems to
me missing is crucial. Academia compared to what? What other activity you can
devote to (working in government, the private sector, NGOs, others) that has
less (and less serious) problems? Over the last 20 years, I have worked for
industry, academia, and international organizations. I can’t tell you academia
is the bad animal this article portrays it to be. Just
stating my (biased) take on it.
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12/09/2013
M1234
I quit my PhD
studies at EPFL a couple of years ago. I came to Switzerland because I was passionate
about science and I really wanted to learn. After 1.5 years I realized that the
topic that was chosen {for me / by me} was completely pointless and will never
be fruitful. My research direction was mostly chosen because it looked good to
get EU money.
At EPFL you are
expected to publish papers almost from the the very
start. Moreover your progress is closely monitored and you feel the heat
(indirectly) when you are behind. I lost all self-esteem and all passion.
Little by little I felt worse and worse. You realize that most research that is
done is completely pointless and follow exactly the points mentioned in the
letter above. Very few people are there to advance the field. It is about
selling a topic, not researching them.
After 3 years I
finally quit and it was the best decision in my life! I now do almost exactly
what I had hoped my PhD would be like. I have people around me that help and
inspire me. I learn more in half a year at my current job than I did during my
3 years in Switzerland.
If you don’t
like your PhD I strongly recommend you quit. The industry is a much better
place to grow, to learn and to have fun. A PhD can be a dangerous mix between
insane pressure and moments of pure panic. Life is too short. Unless you love
your field unconditionally or need a PhD to boost you ego, I can promise you
that you will learn more, have more fun, feel mush
better, accomplish more, be more proud of your own
work in the industry than in academia. Moreover, I actually think there is
better ethics in some sense, it is harder to bullshit
and lie. If the stuff you are developing don’t work,
they don’t work.
If you love
science and learning – search for a great company in the right industry! There
are plenty of places you can do science in the industry.
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12/09/2013
H
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/beautiful-minds/2013/08/26/23-signs-youre-secretly-a-narcissist-masquerading-as-a-sensitive-introvert/
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12/09/2013
SRIDHAR
For a sidelong
look at the same essential debate see the zen pencils cartoon:
Bill Watterson’s: A cartoonist’s advice
http://zenpencils.com/comic/128-bill-watterson-a-cartoonists-advice/
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12/09/2013
KISH
On the DOT! Well
said, you have put forth all the points I had in my mind.
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12/09/2013
DENDE
I agree with the
author of the letter. Academia has become another tool of the “Market”, this
entity that nobody fully understands and which behaves like a monster eating
human beings to go on in the Third World as well as in the Fourth one. In my
opinion, the reason why Universities are becoming emotionally cold factories of
professionals formed only on technical issues is that the “Market” only wants
these institutions formed by this kind of people. There were already meetings
in the end of 70’s and beginning of 80’s where big corporations met in order to
discuss about the future academic models that should be established in order to
build a more competitive society and develop a better world. But the way that
these corps. defend is only one of the possible ways
to do it, and I fully disagree with the extremist Neoliberal ideas that led us
to this economical crisis that everybody is paying,
except the big corps.
By the way, when
I told my boss at EPFL during my PhD that EPFL didn’t seem a University from my
point of view because we didn’t really make research, he replied telling me
that EPFL is not a University, but a School…! According to him the differences
are clear: a School is more a tool for Companies, Industry,….
I wondered whether he meant “the Market”. So apparently for some people it’s
clear: if research activity doesn’t bring short-term benefits isn’t worth to
invest in it. Why do you think that Molecular Biology has so big budgets? In
order to better understand where do we come from, or in order to produce more
benefits for pharmaceuticals? And I think that this is what is making
politicians change their opinion about academic institutions as if they were
sinks of money where researchers, scientists and even students live at the
expense of the taxes of Society.
Therefore, I
agree with the contents of the letter, even though I found it hard to
understand in some parts. I am pretty sure that the author took his time to
write it, but I would appreciate clearer messages without so many appositions
and subordinated phrases. On the other hand, I fully agree with Rob that we are
the young generation to change the things, so here I am as well to change
things with my day by day behavior.
I could continue
saying so many things, but it’s time to leave it for the moment and to show all
my admiration and my respect to the author of the letter. I’m sure that we lost
in the research community, at least, a very honest person. And we are lack of them
in Science.
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12/09/2013
ERIK P
Anyone working
in science must be able to recognise these as valid points. Science is a
pyramid scheme, whereby you get lots of students or post-docs underneath you to
write as many papers as possible. Review processes are also political and
hardly anonymous (you can tell you writes what!). There are other problems
(e.g. when funding is low, people fund PhDs rather than researchers,
as it is cheaper. In the UK there is 1 post-doc position for every 20
PhD graduates, and the UK does well!)
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12/09/2013
BUBBLEWRAP
I’m also a PhD
student from EPFL but I work in a research centre in another Kanton. In
general, I have a very supportive PhD supervisor and encouraging environment.
But ask yourself
….
how often you wonder, how come someone *like that* could get
a PhD just because he/she had been in the system long enough?
How come your supervisor
just doesn’t see the fundamental problem/mistake in his proposed
project/argument?
Most students
who apply for a PhD program come in because they couldn’t find a job. Even
though PhD students are paid very little, they still sign up because it’s better
than nothing. If/when they graduate, they might think they’re capable of doing
research and become supervisors for the next generation of PhD students. Or
they think they can be good managers (because in this age, good
presentation/salesman skills are regarded better than
the actual ability to do research), and go onto managing a lab. But in fact,
they are far from capable of advancing the scientific frontiers. They come up
with pointless projects like they have a quota to fill and admit cheap &
low-quality students to do the projects, so that they maintain their PI status.
Some truly
brilliant students, if they are lucky, get very competent supervisors. If
they’re unlucky, they are quickly disappointed by the quality of their peers
(who come in because of a salary than science), supervisors (who are either
more focused on advancing their managerial career than the actual science or
are just mediocre scientists) and the lack of support (financial, professional)
from the University. They become bitter and lose motivation and lost.
The value of the
PhD has decreased so much: http://www.economist.com/node/17723223
To fix the broken system:
admit only the best of the best for PhD programs and reward them with good
salary for what they contribute to science.
Until then… the real, smart
ones are going to find jobs (and do amazing things) in the real world. Only
dreamers and the slightly-above-average ones go to Grad School.
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12/09/2013
VIGHNESH NV
Dear Gene,
Felt so
reassuring to know that someone else shares my views on academics. For a
moment, I even wondered if I was cloned out of you ! I
am currently in the second year of my PhD, but wondering if I should continue.
While I may not be courageous enough to quit my PhD as yet, I am hopeful that I
can, with like-minded people such as you, bring some positive changes in myself
as well as in my surroundings. As an Indian, it is nice to hear that you would
like to work in the developing world, although I don’t subscribe to the
prevailing definition of development. You are most welcome to work in India.
:-). I have some fresh ideas.
Please let me
know your e-mail address so that I can correspond with you (FYI, I generally
don’t send long emails ). Note my e-mail
address: vighnesh_nv@outlook.com
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12/09/2013
PHILIPPA
I am really
happy seeing that finally someone had spoken out.
I study in
Germany and I and many of my friends share your frustration.
The situation is
even worse for PhD students coming from outside Europe, Canada, and the US.
They are often forced to work with 50% of the PhD students
salary for 10-12 hours per day 7 days per week.
I believe modern
slavery is this.
I have witnessed
one case of burnout in my colleagues during my PhD.
People are
stressed out all the time. The nervous system diseases are ubiquitous among my
colleagues who are below thirty years old in where I work.
I loved my field
of study before I did this PhD. I no longer do. Every thing
is so superficial and ugly that I do not want to be a part of it. I have also
decided to quit science for good after I finish my PhD studies.
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12/09/2013
SHAHRZAD
This article is
worth ten “academic publications”!
It is so close
to me and my experience I almost thought I wrote it, I wish of course I had
written down my experience as well,
instead of just discussing it with friends , the whole thing reminds me of the
naked king and the little boy!
somebody needs to shout it out, let it be us,
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12/09/2013
AMIHAPPY
My sincere
respects to you and few of the other commenters who making an earnest effort in
understanding of pitfalls in academia. I agree on quite a few things that is presented in the original letter, although I have been
lucky to escape them by the whisker.
I too have
recently submitted my first draft of dissertation and hoping to graduate in
coming months. Few years ago, when i
was finishing my masters and thinking about future options. I was
eagerly seeking advice from other graduate students who were pursuing their PhD
on what to expect in case I decided to undertake PhD. Most (not all)of the people I spoke to were prone to frustrations
expressed on this page and some of them had bought into the system and others
were cursing their lives while biding their time till graduation.
I made it a
point that I would feel comfortable in the group(which
takes in the factor of Prof/Advisor) such that I would be enthusiastic about
going to the lab everyday. I cannot imagine spending
3-5 years of my life doubting my choices, feeling insecure, incapacitated, frustrated about life in general. I am sure such a time
comes in to everybody’s life and we’ve learn to cope but to bring it oneself is
something which has to be avoided!(I think I have so
far, lucky me:))
My point is, the
ills of the system apart, there are Profs out there
who are making an effort to swim against the tide. Some students are lucky(I really mean this, I know people will doubt my
qualifications for saying this) and rest of them either get sold into the
system or living their lives in frustrations. Then there some brave souls who
call the bluff and walk away.
I don’t want to
walk away now but even in case I wanted to ….I would not, life back home is not
so sweet…..its god damm greyhound tracks back there
and if I don’t go back with a fancy certificate……now you see why I consider
myself lucky.
Good luck for
all you brave souls who are walking away and my sincere sympathies to the
frustrated souls out there.
Regards
iAmHappy
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12/09/2013
SLEHAR
Great letter, all true except for one
thing: Science is NOT a business, science is a charitable venture funded by
government. And government is famously incompetent at getting ANYTHING done
efficiently or sensibly, because government is also not a business, it lives
off the taxpayer, few of whom even follow what their money is being spent on.
So science is a big charade where bureaucrats hire committees of “respected”
academics to make collective judgments on distributing the government funds, so
all the conniving and deal-making and back-stabbing are a natural part of the
process. It happens wherever government spends money, not just in science.
That the cynical truth. Now for the
hopeful truth: Government will always grow and grow till it is barely
sustainable, and it will spend and spend to justify its bloated existence by
“doing good” by one measure or another. Every culture has its religion, some
spend the collective wealth building pyramids or spinning prayer wheels. We
have the good fortune to live in a society where science IS our religion,
because if you have to have a religion, science is the least deceptive and most
grounded in actual reality of the alternative belief systems.
The true benefit of all that
government funded research is NOT the piles of incomprehensible publications
generated by all the career scientists building their careers. That literature
is indeed mostly worthless and incomprehensible. The true benefit of government
funded science is that it offers a (almost useless but delightful) career for
many science-minded people, who do more interesting REAL science and philosophy
and mathematics in their spare time at home than they do in the boring lab, and
they get to exchange ideas over beers with like-minded science-interested folks
on every topic under the sun. The culture is enriched by giving a living to the
geeky nerd thinkers. Jump on the bandwagon, join the gravy-train, write your
mindless papers, but give thanks that you live in a culture where there is a
career available to anyone who is willing to play the game. THAT is what is
good in science. Not the obvious “product” published in peer-reviewed journals.
That is just the game they play to earn their respected position in the system.
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12/09/2013
VPYNCHON
I want to
congratulate myself with the author of this letter.
I think what
s/he says actually captures a lot of what is going on not only in science
departments, but also in the humanities. As many people may be aware of, during
the last decades the humanities have started to feel “inferior” to the sciences
and, in order to fight such a complex of inferiority, they’ve started to become
more “scientific” themselves. Nowadays, in whatever branch of the humanities
you work, you are expected to produce papers written with “scientific clarity”.
This is translated in very short papers, focused on an extremely narrow topic,
citing a lot of pre-existent and “important” literature.
In this way, historians are now “scientists of history”, anthropologists are
“scientists of culture and men”, philosophers are
“scientists of thought”. No-one is interested in actually trying to give a
humanistic perspective to the most urgent problems of society. There are no
more historians who try to understand how we ended up in this current
situation, there are no more anthropologists who try
to actually understand cultural conflicts, there are no more philosophers who
engage themselves in the construction of a general system of ideas to make
sense of ourselves and of the world we live in. There are only a lot of
“scientific humanists” spending days typing on their laptops and producing
shallow papers which are going to be read only by seven people in the world;
finally, when they have ten of those papers, they collect them together, they
write a Preface and a Conclusion in which they say exactly the same things of
what is already said in the papers, and so they are ready to publish their
first book – which probably is going to be reviewed by their old teachers and
friends.
I am a PhD
student in Philosophy of Science, and I share the same feelings of the author
of this letter. Philosophy of science is a complex discipline, with many
branches and sub-branches. Lately, it has become clear that the very
disciplinary structure of the philosophy of science mirrors the taxonomy of the
sciences. This tendency to the over-specialization is almost suffocating. Once
upon a time, there was a sort of “general” philosophy of science, treating
issues like the epistemological status of scientific claims (i.e., whether such
claims are “true” or “false”, and how we can be sure of that), the history of
scientific concepts, the inter-relations among the sciences, the definition of
scientific rationality, the role of science within
society. Then, it happened that many “philosophers of science” became
“philosophers of physics”, or “philosophers of biology”, or “philosophers of
the social sciences”. Nowadays, there is the philosophy of quantum mechanics,
philosophy of statistical mechanics, philosophy of relativity, philosophy of
evolutionary theory, philosophy of economics, philosophy of psychology…
While putting effort on a special field is not bad per se, the problem here is
that all these “philosophers of the special sciences” do not even communicate
with one another anymore. If you ask to one of them a question which is not
related to their narrow area of expertise, they don’t know what to say or they
just say that “it’s not their field” .
All of this, in the name of a “scientific clarity” which is
sold as the highest virtue in the humanities and accepted as a dogma.
Because of this
over-specialization, another tendency in the humanities that I have noticed is
the lack of a sane – I would say “enlightened” – critical spirit. I make again
an example from the philosophy of science, since it is the area that I know best.
In the past, several philosophers of science were interested not only in the
“conceptual analysis” of this or that theory or equation. They were also
interested to other issues like, for instance, the “ethics” of science, or the
place that scientific knowledge should have in (and for) society, or the
relation between “scientific progress” and “human progress”. There was this
famous philosopher of science, Paul Feyerabend, who
knew a lot about science – in particular, the various interpretations of quantum
mechanics – and yet, despite his detailed and informed analyses, was claiming
that ultimately the problem that philosophers of science should try to solve is
happiness. Feyerabend’s research tried to answer to
the question: “How can science be used to improve our
lives and to make us happier?” (or, alternately and
more critically: “Is science actually used to improve our lives and to make us
happier?)
Nowadays, no philosopher of science asks those questions. If you try, you are
labelled irrational and idealist. All you have to do is to have this
“scientific attitude” which translates in the dogmatic and a-critical
acceptance of what science is and does. In other words, if you have a PhD in
philosophy of science, your job description is going to be: “Given that science
is right, you must be able to explain why”. But this attitude is neither
humanistic nor scientific, I’m afraid! And beside,
what would be the need of having philosophers around, if what they say is
exactly the same of what scientists are already saying by themselves.
Finally, there
is this eternal academic arrogance which pervades not only the science
departments, but also the humanities. It is true: people from the departments
of physics may look down at people from the departments of biology who may look
down at people from the departments sociology. Because
the structure of the philosophy of science mirrors the taxonomy of the
sciences, the same thing happen in the departments of philosophy: people doing
philosophy of physics look down at people doing philosophy of biology who in
turn look down at people doing philosophy of the social sciences, while
philosophers of maths look down pretty much at everybody.
Moreover, philosophical disciplines are also more or less important depending
on their nationality. Anglo-American philosophers say that German or French
philosophers, the so-called “Continental”, are just a
waste of time and they all write wishy-washy non-sense. All
of them. You then ask to these people which German or French philosophers
they have read and they will most likely reply: “Well, none of them, because
they are all of waste of time and they speak non-sense, all of them!” The
opposite is also true. When asked about Anglo-American philosophers, the
so-called “Analytics”, the Continentals would reply that they are all shallow
and narrow and affect by an irrational scientism – all of them, that’s why none
of that should be, and have been!, read.
My feeling is
that current academia has destroyed what both the sciences and the humanities
were about. Both scientists and humanists are just caged in the lab or in the
library and they have no idea of what is going on in the world. Wars, famine,
financial collapses, climatic and natural disasters: this is what is going on.
Yet, you ask to academics to try to make sense of even one of this problem and
you find out they can’t: they are too busy writing the next paper in which they
have to cite those guys who have cited them, or supervising the next thesis
about nothing – all of this with public money, of course.
The only reason
why I am not giving up on PhD is because I have almost finished and I don;t know what to do. I don;t feel particularly blessed or
intelligent in doing what I am doing. Actually, I feel rather dumb and,
sometimes, even morally “dirty”. Let’s see what the future will decide of me
and best of luck to the author of the original letter.
VP
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13/09/2013
SAM
Whoever you (the
original author of the content) are, dude, accept my
“friendship”. Yes, we are less in number, but does it matter? We always have
been. Keep courage, my friend. Bloodsucking leeches have networks and
self-sustaining-mediocrity always. But that never bothers the true Howard Roarks (ref: The Fountainhead). Keep doing what you believe
in, and don’t bother about peer-support. In the end, they all kneel down and
worship the harbingers of new ideas. and yes, they do
keep on making their bread and butter from our ideas!
Only thing that I suggest? or
request? Do NOT quit from doing science. Then those businessmen win.
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13/09/2013
RJ
Thanks to bring
this issue up. Such cases happen a lot.
I was forced to
be working fully on supervisor’s projects, and stressful work makes me work
every until late night. These projects have nothing to do with my phd topic!!!
I always have to
beg for time for my research, I fill my holiday time to write my papers and
send it to my supervisor for correction. After waiting 3 months, I asked, he
didn’t even read it!!! and later he spend only a night
to finished.
Now I am
struggling not to be involved into any business projects.
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13/09/2013
ARUN
Just a recommendation – Science and Method by Henri Poincare.
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13/09/2013
PROMETHEUS
What this young
apprentice says is largely true. But, out of a hundred papers you may read, you
may stumble upon “the one” that is life altering. It makes it worth is.
Your work is a
pure as your soul. I do not see it as an Either/Or,
but a chess game to keep your soul and keep an academic roof over your head. No
shame in that.
What else… oh,
really hard problems worth solving could take decades…Yes. But, I look at a
Journal like a notebook that is made public. Heh, it may not all be E=MC2, but
it is the best I can do. If you look at a journal pub as an open notebook, then
maybe you would not have such high expectation of each individual publication.
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13/09/2013
TAMI
The key is to
pick your advisor and project carefully before getting involved. While that is
easier said than done, it is much easier than 4+ years of uninspired work.
There are scientists out there doing science the way you imagine it should be
done (whatever that may be) — find them and don’t settle for less.
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13/09/2013
ALEX
To the author: I
admire you. Like you, I have experienced a similar situation and have the exact
same feelings. Here, five months ahead from my dissertation I don’t have the
guts to quit. Yet I decided to take a different path and go to the industry
since I don’t believe in Academia anymore. Certainly the industry is also
money-driven, but at least they honest about it.
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13/09/2013
MOKHLISS
Unfortunately so
true.hope it will change.the
real researchers have to do something to change the situation
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13/09/2013
TAMAGHNA
I feel this is
more of a supply-demand problem. I’m an undergraduate and I’ve done most of my
research in my home country (India) and while I agree that such things happen
even here, I’ve been fortunate to the extent that I would think twice before
calling it a coincidence. The facts are thus…
I’m now working
on two research projects in Condensed Matter Physics. Project 1 was decided
after discarding three different project ideas that came up, two of which came
from my supervisor and one from myself. There was not the least display of any
sort of negativity when I told him I found a different topic more interesting
or that I didn’t want to do a certain type of work this summer. I’m still early
in my career and in no position to judge the merits of a professor, but to my
limited understanding, he is a brilliant researcher with a keen command over
the very interesting (to the scientific community in developed nations as well
as to myself) topics he specializes in, which it is surprising to me that the
strength of his research group is at this point I believe limited to three PhD
students one of whom is leaving this year. Project 2 is being carried out at my
home instituition. During our first encounter after I
had finished describing my previous work, the professor expressed interest in a
project of mine that I was incomplete (because a European professor I had
started it with had lost interest in the project) and suggested that it might
be interesting to reformulate that into a more general problem as our project
and try to complete my project on the side. Both of these professors actually
work on the projects, in the sense that they get their hands dirty and work
through the stuff when it gets interesting enough to excite them. These are not
isolated instances; I have had similar experiences in other projects in my country
and a single starkly different experience in my lone stint abroad.
I feel that one
of the roots (and certainly not the only one) of the problem is that there is a
surplus of supply in the hallowed scientific centres of the developed world,
the US, Germany, Switzerland, France, Britain, Canada among others. Supply of
good quality graduate students when in excess, will inevitably lead to a system
in which they are undervalued. Also, it increases the managerial overhead on
the professors, who then have even less time for their students, thus
perpetuating the vicious cycle.
This is
essentially the same problem that would arise if all the tomato famers of the
world preferred to sell their tomatoes (cf. 5 years of graduate school) to
Walmart and Tesco, say (cf. hot-shot Western universities). The tomatoes would
rot and both companies would be deluged in managing inventories so there is
really no point blaming them either. As the businesses expanded under the
pressure of more and more supply, the possible objective of providing quality
tomatoes at lower rates to the world is lost in the rat race, as both try to
one-up the other. In principle, the analogous problem in academia would need to
be resolved in similar fashion. However, I’m not sure what the necessary steps
would have to be in practice for the encouragement of a global academic “free
market”, where quality researchers are matched to quality graduate school
applicants irrespective of affiliation, if at all I am right in believing that
this would solve the problems addressed in this post. Fixing a maximum PhD:mentor ratio sounds like a
very naiive and knee-jerk reaction, I would be glad
if someone came up with a more feasible solution.
Just my two
cents,
Tamaghna.
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13/09/2013
D
Science is a
messy, messy place with morally bankrupt individuals competing with one another
for paltry, waning grant funds. The only equity left in the world of science is
social equity freely paid to influential professors who store it in a vault of
ego.
I dropped out of
my (ivy league) PhD too. I refused to develop, as you say, Stockholm Syndrome for my advisors, who were using their students as robots
to do their work instead of developing the students themselves. I once received
a report that said something to the effect of “you desire to innovate, but that
distracts you from your work.”
There are almost
NO checks and balances in the system. You can work for years under a professor
who holds your degree or letter of recommendation hostage, and there is no way
to earn your “payment” without delivering whatever expectation they have, no
matter how absurd.
Let the pompous
“intellectuals” tear themselves to pieces as science becomes privatized,
education becomes free and online, and grants all but disappear. The real world
is a well-paying meritocracy established on concrete and objective market
demands. Fight on and don’t look back!
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13/09/2013
TOMMASO
TUFARELLI
Thanks for the
beautiful article, I am still working in academia a
see a lot of the things you mention.
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13/09/2013
ALAN WRIGHT
What a wonderful
article! Without saying so directly, the author has touched on a few
pertinent real life challenges such as:
+ that part of culture where ignorance is bliss and those who have gone down
the road to enlightenment discover their own shortcomings and those of others;
+ that part of economics where money and greed drive decision making in an
world where dependence on money enslaves you or protects you from the will of
others;
+ that part of individuality and choice which eludes so many because they do
not have it, or do have it but don’t realise that they are in a position to
stand free…
All that said,
the article reveals so many opportunities. For instance, there is the
opportunity to be an academic outside of the formal structures and inject truth
into the world through platforms like this (a blog). Or go straight into the
(business) world and do the same. I do the latter. I abandoned my masters
because of my principals’ egos. Had I been so naive at that stage of my life, I
would have spent less money on them and more on me. But my clients love my work
– it’s brutally honest and ego free. Most of all, it’s totally scientific.
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13/09/2013
FEUDRENAIS
Okay, given the
interest that this letter has generated, I’ve decided that it would be criminal
not to do something to act on the spark that this seems to have created for
many people. If you want to create a group where we could
discuss/propose/implement potential solutions, the first step should be to get
everyone who’s interested together, after which we could start formal
discussions.
If you are
interested, either:
(1) e-mail Juliette
at juliette.colinas@gmail.com
(2) e-mail me at eugene.bunin@gmail.com
(3) join the Facebook group I created for this (called “Honest Science”, link above)
– I recognize that Facebook is not the best choice for everyone, but it’s free
and as a quick-and-dirty solution it’s good, as it can also immediately give a
forum to more focused discussions (if we want to migrate to a dedicated forum
later, that’s of course possible)
A big thanks to everyone, again.
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13/09/2013
PETER MURRAY-RUST
Thank you for the courage to write
this article.
I have just retired from a career in
academic and industrial science and it’s been very kind to me. I’ve had freedom
– both funding and choice of work – in both situations. For the last few years
until I retried I have had a wonderful group of people working with me (in
chemical informatics). I am extremely proud of them and they have uniformly
gone into productive high-tech industry (almost all in UK) which I believe
represents a very positive outcome.
I have no doubt that I was very
fortunate to be in a golden era of science and that it’s much harder now. I was
fortunate to be mentored by first class scientists ,
all showing great humanity. None had large groups and I have always held that I
personally did not want to run a group that could not sit down at a single
table at a pub on Friday afternoons without a deadline of rushing back. But
this is increasingly hard to do. Crick and Watson might mind
it hard to work today in the way they did.
There are wonderful things in
academia, but I think the system is getting out of touch with the world
outside. I’m now working largely outside the system (in the Open Knowledge
Foundation) and looking to do science with those outside the ivory tower. In
the digital era there’s a huge potential to change the way we do education and
research – and universities have failed to recognize this. Indeed academia is
one of the few business areas largely untouched by the digital era.
It depends very much on the field but
there are often equally exciting challenges in industry as in academia. The
constraint of a business focus can be beneficial as well as constraining. I
think both biotech and IT are very exciting areas outside academia. And –
although it’s not common – it’s often technically possible to do non-laboratory
research privately. I hope we shall see the development of non-academic
communities doing innovation and research in the public arena – Wikipedia,
Mozilla, OKF, and crowdsourcing are growing rapidly. So earning your living
outside academia may allow you to continue certain types of “research”. It will
be very challenging, but it’s possible.
Change can often be a good thing – I
left academia because I had wonderful industrial collaborators and I saw the
potential of doing new and exciting things.
Of course, you will be lucky and
unlucky in the people and organizations you meet. Make the most of the good
fortune
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13/09/2013
SI
So If I get it
right from your own comments:
– You were given the great opportunity to work on a topic you are truly
interested in
– You were well supervised, you were granted public money for a duration of
four years to pursue “true” science
– You claim to have learned a lot during your PhD journey
…and yet you chose to quit.
How ethical is
it, not to want to share what you have learned with others, while you accepted
public funding for all the duration of your journey?
How is this
better than the people you described?
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13/09/2013
PAUL
To be honest,
I’ve come across similar writings several times during the course of my Masters degree, and it didn’t stop me from doing a PhD.
Sure, a lot of it is true, to an extent, but if you feel that you are not given
enough freedom, not working in the right place or on the wrong project, with
the wrong people, or making enough money, then the fault cannot fully be with
‘academia’ (whatever that is!); most of the responsibility of this lies with
yourself. I do understand that not everyone has the good fortune to be offered
a position in their preferred lab or on their preferred topic, but blaming your
misery on ‘academia’ after you knowingly chose a sub-par position, is not
honest; no matter how unfair ‘the world’ might seem.
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14/09/2013
CHRISTIAN
SCHMEMANN
I apologize for
the length of this post.
I started out my
university life as a physics student, with an interest in nuclear physics and
biophysics. During the course of my studies, I became convinced that nuclear
energy was the only feasible way to effectively tackle the issues of climate
change. I started PhD program in nuclear engineering, where I decided to
specialize in radiological physics and radiation safety. I found the field
interesting, from a mathematical perspective and as a practical endeavor. Being that I had no nuclear experience starting
out, I was given a year or so to work casually on several projects, so that I
could find my niche. Whenever, I found a major professor, he assigned me to a
thin-film neutron scintillator for my dissertation project. I never had any
experience in solid-state physics or photonics, and I wasn’t allowed to take
any solid-state physics class. To make a long convoluted story short, things
ended very badly.
I was starting
to become concerned about the prospects of nuclear employment in America after
Fukushima and the ideologically-driven closures of two nuclear power plants
just this year. I still maintain that nuclear energy is the only workable
solution to adequately address climate change, but I would not recommend going
to graduate school as a means to enter into the nuclear industry.
I’ve read a lot
on the responses to this article about how the dysfunctions of the neo-liberal
and laissez-faire capitalism are eroding academia, and my experiences are fully
consistent with careerist professors who are only interested in grubbing as
much money as they can; the academic profession is quickly going to replace the
legal profession for being the worst of blood-sucking parasites. I think that
academia is too far gone, too full of rage-prone egomaniacs, ranging from the
University President to the Provost to the Deans to the Faculty to ever reform
internally. I think that reform to academia is going to have to come from the
outside. Specific to America, I think that all graduate students should have a
right to have to organized labor, and I think that
weekly overtime laws that apply to regular workers should apply to graduate
students as well. Academic work needs to be seen as just another form of labor that should be covered to the same labor laws that govern all other labor.
I think another
problem with academia I would add to this letter is that the academic climate
can be extremely unforgiving for people who have interests and hobbies outside
their scientific specialty and want to interact with people outside the
academic climate. Outside science, I have a love for classical music, both
performing on piano and organ and going to the symphony; I realize that I am in
the minority for being a physicist who is a Greek-rite Catholic convert and
enjoys volunteer work. And I can say in all honesty that I was often seen as a
pariah by my major professor for wanting contact with the outside world. To be
just blunt, these are signs of a cult!
I still maintain
that science is the means by which the majority of the world’s problems will be
solved. Whether academia can deliver on this or not, I do not know and I no
longer care. Since my time as a PhD student, I have completely fallen out of
love with science, and I can no longer be a functioning product worker in the
sciences or engineering. I have also found other causes are a lot more
important to me. I am completely sick of both the careerist academics who treat students as food for their ill-gotten gain and the
anti-science American Fundamentalist heretics called the Tea Party. I I have decided that I should go to the seminary and be a
priest.
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14/09/2013
IFTIKHAR QAYUM
I think there is
a lot of bullshit here. One person’s or a few person’s personal experiences or
opinions are being blown out of proportion to malign an entire system that has
produced countless benefits for mankind over many centuries. There is no
problem-free system in the world and any serious student of science would know
that this is inherent to any evolutionary process. Did any of us learn to run
before learning to walk and learn to walk without falling? Yet it is the human
spirit and endeavor for struggling against the odds
that has brought us to see the modern world from jungle and cave days. Imagine
what would have happened if our ancestors had given up on effort and sat
contentedly with what they had? There are always dropouts, for whatever
reasons, and they have always been ignored while the bandwagon moves on.
Instead of just condemning things and dropping out of them, one should spend
time and effort into finding solutions. In this case, a better course would
have been to complete the PhD, join the group and then work to convince the
system of your proposed changes and have them implemented…change things from
within, as it were, rather than running away.
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14/09/2013
FEUDRENAIS
Interesting
rebuttal to the letter here (from a very different perspective):
https://medium.com/advice-to-graduates/d0dd648b7c4d
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14/09/2013
DIFFEOMORPH
@ FeuDRenais
Hmmm, Interesting lettre.
Nothing new though, and you’re definitly not the
first. I have respect for the fact that you stated your mind so clearly and had
the courage to send it to so many “large” egos.
You say that you
want to do true/honest science. Have you actually asked yourself what that
might be? I’m sure if you took a pole, you would find
as many answers as there are to this blog. The problems you state in your lettre do not just apply to academia. They are problems
found in almost every aspect of life and this because we live in a world
populated by Humans which (last time I checked) are flawed creatures. Therefore
anything they do will also be in someway inperfect.
Your answer to
the problem is to quit. What will this achieve? You will go to industry or
elsewhere and you will be confronted to the same problems of egos, dishonesty,
cheating, etc. You say academia pulled a trick on the world. Look at some of
the companies out there trying to sell there products
to the world, are they any better? Not really. Will there ever be something as
pure honesty in an imperfect world? The answer is a resounding no.
However, this
does not mean that we should not strive for this. From my point of view our job
is to make the world better, if only in a neighbourhood of ourselves. You want
to change academia for the better, than stay and fight for what you believe in.
You can only change things by hard work and perseverance in the area itself.
Your quitting will only get you a few days or weeks of discussion and then
people will loose interest and go back to there life and struggles. You will not become a becon of honest science because you quite, you gave up. If
you truelly want to change something, then finish
your PhD, stay in academia and spend the rest of your life trying to improve
it, if only locally.
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14/09/2013
DRJOHNGALAN
One of the
world’s most eminent electrochemists (a man I knew) in 1989 was vilified and
his career (albeit late in life) ruined though the search for a new scientific
phenomenon.
He and a
colleague reported observations, measurements that they had made, which flew in
the face of established theory. They openly stated that they did not understand
the theory of the phenomenon behind their observations. Despite that, they were
accused of being charlatans and performing “junk science”. How can reporting an
observation be anything other than of scientific interest?
Almost a quarter
of a century later, the observations they reported have been replicated many
times in many laboratories throughout the world. Mainstream science still
ignores this field: a quiet word in the ear from the established scientist
tells a young researcher not to go anywhere near this topic. The world is a
poorer place as a result.
Fortunately,
like you, there are a few brave men and women who have integrity. They continue
to pursue this research which is likely to be seen in due course as leading to
a paradigm shift in science.
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14/09/2013
ALESSANDRA
Hi all, I just
came across to this article…I really suggest you to read this book: THe Culture of technology, A. Pacey (http://books.google.fr/books/about/The_Culture_of_Technology.html?id=JFfV7EopNPoC&redir_esc=y)
it is a very “academic” description of how ambiguous is science today. We still
believe that science is pure and bring a positive progress but reality is that
everything touches technology enters into industrial-market logic which is most
of the time far far away from pushes people to become
scientist. …
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14/09/2013
ISOMORPHISMES
After the disenchantment with academia,
the next step for this young person will be to de-mystify the business world.
S/he seems to think “Business = Evil” when in fact plenty of jobs do actually
accomplish something.
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14/09/2013
W.W.WYGART
FeuDRenais
Good luck with all of your future endeavors.
You might be interested to know that
Sean Summers at ETH Zurich has posted a kind of nasty-gram to you at his
website:
https://medium.com/advice-to-graduates/d0dd648b7c4d
Comments don’t seem to be possible there.
You’ve also been
picked up in the USA at Anthony Watt’s blog WUWT – take that for what its worth.
As I say at my
own blog:
This seems to be
a symptom of a larger problem that many outside of academia, such as myself, have been commenting on for years, namely the
degradation of institutionalized science into an academic racketeering
operation.
Academia is
along established institution – or meta institution.
All long established institutions share a common phenomenology – they serve to
protect mediocrity and stifle genuine innovation. Institutions are often
[though not always] created for some original purpose as an innovative impulse,
usually that of an exceptional innovator. That purpose inevitably degenerates
into self-perpetuation of the institution, rather that innovation. Of course it
is often the case with political institutions in particular – and academic
institutions are by their nature quasi-political – that they are founded
precisely to shore up a status quo and stifle any outbreak of novelty or
innovation. The exceptional and innovative of course do exist in academia and
elsewhere, but the academic institution is often at odds with them – my outsider take on the situation.
In the cases
where institutions are created as an auxiliary to some innovative or creative
impulse, for example that of some great innovator who creates an institution to
further his work, once that innovator leaves the scene the decline sets in. You
cannot institutionalize innovation, innovation and
institutionalization are contrary impulses. The best that an institution can do
is recognize the real innovators in their midst and get the hell out of their
way and let them try, fail, and succeed and give them the necessary resources
and support along the way.
Spengler has a
new essay at the AsiaTimesOnLine here: where he
discusses, in the light of his recent death, economist Ronald Coase, the notion
of the Firm in regards to innovation.
“Firms exist, he
argued, because the individuals who comprise the firm – the production workers,
the salesmen, the typists in the office pool, and the janitor – would have to spent too much time searching for work if they all worked
freelance. By collaborating in a firm together they are assured of steady
work.”
Its supposed to be all about lowering
everyone’s transaction costs. Spengler later corrects, or extends, Coase’s
theory of the Firm.
“I have an
alternate theory of the firm, namely that large firms exist to protect
mediocrity – from the lunatics and conmen on one hand, and disruptive
innovators on the other… …For every Thomas Edison there are a hundred
candidates for commitment to state mental health facilities.
Most people
don’t like disruption. They want to acquire a skill, work reasonable hours,
secure reasonable pay, watch television in the evening and play golf or
whatever on the weekends. They don’t look deeply into the matters that concern
them and are content to do what other people in their position do. If they are
diligent, reliable, well-mannered and polite, they are just the sort of folk
that the human relations types at corporations prefer.”
In this way,
academic science seems to have become indistinguishable from Coase’s and
Spengler’s Firm.
Good luck to
those who are exceptional enough to find their way out early.
W^3
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15/09/2013
ASTRODOOBIE
Yes, there are
all these problems, obstacles, difficulties, irritations, egos,
….but, actually, the most important thing I’ve noticed in all my years
of academia is that really passionate people who are reasonably smart, who work
hard, and who “keep their eyes on the prize” almost always make it. It’s a
human endeavor that can be a lot of fun, but it’s
still part of the real world.
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15/09/2013
EJ
A courage to be saluted.
Reminds me of
Hal Lewis’s resignation from the APS: http://heartland.org/policy-documents/hal-lewis-resignation-letter-american-physical-society
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15/09/2013
LLOYD
Before doing anything else, read Jeff
Schmidt’s Disciplined Minds, which exactly describes the group sociology of
this situation. I am surprised it hasn’t already come up in discussion. I
believe every grad student should read it.
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15/09/2013
MIKE HASELER
I am doing
research into the culture of academia and I would like to know more about the
circumstances that led to this letter as well as how to cite it.
Mike Haseler BSc.MBA
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15/09/2013
PIEZEN
EPFL PhD here. Congratulations and sympathies to the author of the
letter and to our gracious host. My two pennies:
1) Academia
draws on average rather intelligent people. For this reason, they are even more
susceptible to manipulation by flattery — hence the dismal salaries, social
status and living conditions that we accept in exchange for the mere hope of
approval and recognition by an intellectual elite.
2) Because
academics are rather smart, they are good at gaming
the system. Most of the paper publication system, the way funding requests are
written, even the research topics themselves are optimised for high returns on
the performance metrics, irrespective of any link to actual social benefit.
In particular, research that is too theoretical, too applied, or even that has
some degree of uncertainty in it stands no chances of funding. It is almost
impossible to obtain grants for a research that is not at least half completed
already.
3) There is a
micro-political aspect. The unconditional acceptance of the “American model”
entails a gutting of the mid-level researcher category, and attention to
publicity stunts such as grandiose-sounding projects, supporting VIPs and the
construction of impressive buildings.
There is also a degree of top-bottom authoritarianism: for instance tight
control of communication organs like internal journals and mailing lists, or a
degree of rigging in school-administrated research grants to promote
politically fashionable topics
4) There is a
macro-political aspect, framed in the general disfranchisement of younger
populations and the Baby-boomers – Generation X/Y fracture line.
Up until the 90s, professors were to some extend judged by the success of their
pupils, who were the inheritors of their theories; since then, professors have
been judged by the amount of grant and private partnership money that they
gather for their institution. As a consequence, PhD students and post-docs have
decayed from pupils you had to care for into a disposable, cheap, overqualified
workforce.
This follows the general evolution of generational relations between privileged
Baby-boomers and struggling members of Generations X and Y. I suggest reading
the following piece on and drawing the parallels to Academia:
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/08/28/spy_kids_nsa_surveillance_next_generation
Now, to echo
Lenin: What is to be done?
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15/09/2013
MARK
Dear FeuDRenais,
I urge you to
reconsider and to get those three letters.
I agree with
your arguments, so much so that I left academia for these very reasons, but
only after I’d gotten the three letters. The last months were the worst, stretching
from the depths of my disillusionment until achieving the three letters, but I
persevered and am very glad I did. With my PhD my credibility and the strength
of my argument is greatly enhanced; “I got my PhD” is simply much more
persuasive than “I was three months away”. Unfortunately, you will find a large
number of people who did not complete their PhDs for a wide variety of reasons,
including (rarely) yours. Yours may be very principled, but this will not be
apparent to anyone but you and your closest friends. The three letters will
convey that your argument is genuine and that your reasons for leaving academia
were out of principle. Without them, you will blend in with the many who were
not capable of completing and who left bitterly, blaming their failures on
others. Though you are not in this group, once you leave ABD, you will have a
hard time explaining that, and your power to change the system will be
enormously reduced.
One fact
remains: those who have the three letters DO want them to mean something.
Indeed, we all want them to convey exactly what you despair is being lost: that
one is capable of searching for truth. You can use this common desire that even
jaded academics will endorse, and you can help to reform the system, and you
will find support. But your arguments will be strong and corroborated by the
evidence, or will be weak.
You get to make
that choice now.
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15/09/2013
MARCO
From the huge
reaction to this email it seems like the system is on the border of a crisis. I
personally think it is in the interest of the heads of academia (also of those
who only care about money) to carefully read this thread and try to address
some of the arisen issues, if they don’t want to risk a snow-avalanche type of
collapse..
I am one of
those who joined a PhD program (in the same institution, namely EPFL) motivated
by his love for science, knowledge and ethics. I had quite many good
opportunities in industry after my MSc., but I said no
to all of them because I loved research and I wanted to do a PhD abroad. I was
(and still are) convinced that science pursues higher goals than just money,
but before actually starting the PhD I was quite unaware of how academic
systems worked in countries different from mine.
I don’t want to
describe my personal problems with the PhD, but I definitely have experienced
all of the feelings reported in the mail, on a daily basis; especially points
1), 2) and 3) and probably with the exception of point 8), as I work in applied
sciences (actually in applied sciences there’s the opposite problem: good
numbers on experimental data are way too important).
I will likely abandon academia, but it is very soothing to know I am not alone
and to let all these feelings emerge to the open air; so thanks a lot for the
letter.
@FeuDRenais I think that facebook
is really not the place where to carry this kind of debates. Isn’t there any
alternative??
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15/09/2013
ALEXANDRE
You are looking
at the negative points only. To criticize is easy, to
make the difference is difficult. Academic area, as well as ALL other areas,
needs optimistic and strong people who can live together with bad things and
turn them into something better. If you are not strong enough, if your
contribution is just to complain, you did the right thing: gave up.
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15/09/2013
LUCAS
I agree
completely. After earning my BS in two years, I continued on through two
masters in the next two years. I then worked for three years to reduce my debt
and then did all the coursework for my PHD.
In order to do
my Practicum I had to quit work. I just couldn’t do it. My faith in the system
was long gone. Without motivation learning doesn’t take place.
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15/09/2013
JOEL
This crystalises almost all of the conclusions I came to during
the final months of my PhD better than I could even have done myself. Although
I went through with finishing it, a large part of me wanted to quit at the
final hurdle. I’m not at all proud to have PhD after my name,
even though I tried my very best (and somewhat succeeded) to make my research
of value to society not just my own CV/ego.
This should be
required reading for any PhD student.
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16/09/2013
DOM
1) I couldn’t agree more with the
author of this letter – he has managed to put into words all the semi-concious concerns that I have developed about academia in
the past two years of a PhD. On the other hand, I agree with many of the
comments – the non-academic world has just the same problems, but probably in a
greater concentration.
What is the current graduate student to do? My answer (and the answer of many
others here) is to seek intellectual fulfilment in other areas.
2) I wonder if academia is currently
experiencing a bubble:
– The number of academics and academics-in-training is higher than ever, but
funding is under threat.
– Universities are requiring more and more from their new hires to achieve
tenure, resulting in overworked faculty, undertaught
undergraduates, and a “publish or perish” paper glut that is unsustainable to
produce or digest.
– University fees are rising rapidly. Although a BA is currently worth the cost
when compared to future earnings potential, how long will this continue?
– MOOCs and the slow increase of free information on the internet mean that it
may be possible to get much of the benefit of a
undergrad education without attending university.
Its hard to say
what will happen as a result of these changes – it seems unlikely that
universities are going to go extinct, but it looks likely that they are going
to have to change.
I find this, combined with the
current state of research described in the original letter, to be the two
factors that dissuade me from continuing in academia.
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16/09/2013
NICK
There is far too
much rhetoric here for it to be as hard hitting as it could have been. It’s a
shame though, as some of the points, are quite true, if too emotionally
charged. It would have been far better submitted as a letter to Nature
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16/09/2013
PRINCE
I have the same
conclusions about Academia, after working for 5 years in a top 10 School in my
field for PhD. Just that I never had the courage to come out openly and quit.
Kudos to the Author.
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16/09/2013
HLM
A short contribution following the many before. I fully agree
with you. Keep the passion as you mentioned it before. Science, knowledge are beautiful things. You can contribute to them and have an
impact. There have also been a number of very good books trying to analyze the issue. Finding solutions has been a challenge
though. But let me mention some of these books, beginning with an author who
posted his own post here:
– Lee Smolin, The Trouble with Physics.
– Joao Magueijo, Faster Than The Speed of Light,
– Laurent Ségalat, La Science à bout de souffle ?
– Libéro Zuppiroli, La Bulle Universitaire, and even to
a lesser extent
– Freeman Dyson, The Scientist as Rebel
– Peter Thiel in Technology = Salvation (a article in the WSJ) is also showing the limits of the
system, relating to technology, not science; the issue is similar though.
All these authors show the perverse effects of science. Hopefully, you Facebook
initiative will have an impact.
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16/09/2013
MATT
I found this article interesting
because it represents a good example of how rot has spread into academia. I’ve
been examining how under a long period of stability rot spreads into all
corners of a society. In this case it is academia in Switzerland, but it has
also spread into the US military, US financial system and European financial
system. There is also extensive rot in Japan and China. The core problem being
that under a long period of stability rot starts to slowly grow and spread into
all corners of society. This will continue until there is a very large collapse
in society.
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16/09/2013
STILL STUNNED
Well-written article. Having done a PhD stemming from finding that a well-established
theory in biochemistry was incorrect, I have personally witnessed most of the
systemic flaws you have pointed out. Originality is often punished; selfish
people pervert peer-review for selfish reasons; there is safety upon the
bandwagon and risk off of it. Being correct does not always elicit admiration;
it more often elicits fear and animosity. One may become the month’s target
rather than hero. Personally, I choose to tell the scientific truth, gain
skills outside of academia, and keep up the good fight. You might win in the
end.
While I understand your frustrations (and could add quite a few others to your
list), I’d add that there are still a few good people within the system.
Perhaps we should struggle to help the decent ascend and replace the more
selfish ones to improve the system?
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16/09/2013
FEUDRENAIS
@hlm: Thank you for the extremely useful list. There was
also a short article in a UNIL (University of Lausanne, just next to EPFL)
paper that had attacked this issue directly. It was in French and tackled a lot
of the same things quite eloquently. I wonder if it might be online somewhere…
If anyone knows, don’t hesitate to post.
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16/09/2013
AGFOSTERJR
Clearly English
is both the writer’s native tongue and the original language of the “letter.”
Clearly its author is not writing to Swiss academics, and probably never
attended a French speaking school. The question arises, how did its
transmission entangle EPFL?
Whatever its
truths and merits, they are tainted by the fraudulent and anonymous nature in
which the discourse arrives and is presented. Can none of the critics of
academia spot obviously inconsistent fraud? –AGF
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16/09/2013
PSHAFFER
What he says is
largely applicable to academic medicine as well. I left Academic medicine 24
years ago, and was criticized at the time for selling out to go into private
practice. However, what I had observed in academic medicine was no more
admirable than what exists in private practice. In private practice, you are
paid more in US dollars. In academia, the currency seems to be ego dollars. The
revered names in academic medicine tended to be massively egocentric. (this is not, as the author notes, true of everyone, but it
is true of enough to make it the average).
I would add a few wrinkles to what he saw – The “game” is to do a large
project, and after data is collected, divide it up into smaller parts,
hopefully taking a few years work and milking it for many, many papers for
years to come.
Although he
doesn’t note it, this degradation of the scientific ideal I think is
responsible for the fact that much work is, after a few years, found to be
incorrect (or possibly faked). See “Why most published research findings are
false” by John Ioannidishttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1182327/)
Like the author,
I was totally disillusioned with what I saw. I have found a fix. I recently
retired, and am now pursuing my own research projects. They are small, they are
not likely to result in massive changes to how we do things, but they satisfy
my curiosity, and they also likely will help a few patients here and there. And
that is all I ask. As a benefit, I run my own schedule, and don’t have to
publish if I don’t think the work is valid, or I don’t think it is worth
saying. I think that is the way science is supposed to work.
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16/09/2013
AGFOSTERJR
Well I hadn’t
read all the comments when I posted that: PJ admits authorship. Now I would
like to know where PJ is from, and what is his native tongue.
–AGF
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16/09/2013
DAVID BAILEY
I reached the
postdoc stage 40 years ago, before giving up and going into software
development. In my case I went (together with a more senior colleague) to the
head of department to point out that our equipment had 2 serious faults that
rendered results almost meaningless. After trying ineffectually to downplay the
problems, he then said that yes they needed repair, but it would have to wait until
his two students had finished collecting data (a matter of many months at
least)!
Since then, I
have worked in areas related to research, and have also talked to many other
researchers about the problems in academic science – including medical
research. The picture is pretty bleak – summed up in this paper:
http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pmed.0020124
Every time we
open a newspaper, we see trivial examples of perverted science where
‘researchers’ run a few quick surveys until they get a result that passes the
5% statistical test. This is how you generate results such as, “Brain Science:
Does Being Left-Handed Make You Angry?” To the newspaper editor, these are
fillers analogous to horoscopes, to the authors, and to the institutions
for whom they work, the fame can only help – who cares about the science!
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16/09/2013
JR
Did you talk
this decision over with your mother or father (or equivalent) before you pulled
the plug on your PhD. program?
I suspect not.
If I were your parent, I would have advised you to weigh the pro’s
and con’s. Generally speaking, academic credentials create opportunities even
if they are directly related to the opportunity they present. For example, I’ve
hired PhD’s, not for their knowledge but for the character quality of
perseverance. They’ve demonstrated courage, can accept constructive criticism,
and they are not quitters. However imperfect, the post-graduate credential
keeps some doors from closing.
As a graduate of
the US Army’s Ranger school at age 19, during the Viet Nam era, I cannot count
the times I’ve drawn courage from that accomplishment when I wanted to quit
something else, even though I did not make the Army a career.
So I think you
were short sighted to quit. For the very thing you wish to improve — the
opportunity to improve the system, is denied you
because you will not have the gravitas of a credible critic. I get you point —
lots of things to change, but you’re a quitter.
Everything human
beings want a lot of, especially if it’s valuable, will become fungible and be
the object from which a business enterprise forms. Businesses are how we share
stuff we want without going bankrupt. However one wishing some things could
transcend monetization, very few valuable things do. It just is.
We’re seeing the
collapse of the destination / hard-walled university business model as MOOC’s
shatter the cost model of knowledge. Maybe this will make post-graduate studies
more appealing?
Regardless, you
quit. If it was because the net present value wasn’t worth it
— good for you. And if you’re not pursuing that more valuable use of
your time now, with the same determination you had hurled at your doctorate —
then you’re just lazy.
Regardless, best
wishes.
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16/09/2013
PIEZEN
@alexandre:
“ALL other areas, needs optimistic and strong people who can live together with
bad things and turn them into something better. If you are not strong enough,
if your contribution is just to complain, you did the right thing: gave up.”
I am sure that
the Soviet apparatchiks said the same thing in 1989.
You are right to
say that it is easy to complain without contributing anything and to attribute
one’s failure to others; but it is equally easy to attribute the lack of luck
of others, and the way they are exploited, to their supposed lack of
commitment. Blaming the victims has been a leitmotiv in the oppressors’ rhetorics for a long, long time. Our cultural environment
hammers this victim-blaming constantly, and Academia is especially permeated
with this “believe-in-yourself”, “everybody-is-special”,
“be-committed-and-you-can-fly” mentality; just try to realise that it is just
propaganda.
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16/09/2013
LISA
This is an
amazing letter. I just finished my postdoctoral fellowship and am taking some
time off from working. I am leaving academia for ALL of these reasons. I’m
having a really difficult time dealing with my disillusionment with academia
after it has been my love, my family and my support system for many years. It’s
so good to see that I am not alone in these feelings.
I would still
absolutely encourage you to finish your PhD. Then leave academia. They don’t
deserve you.
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16/09/2013
JACK
I was fed up
doing graduate work being treated as if I knew nothing and needed another
degree to succeed. Educators are like ministers. They think they know something
I need to know. I just don’t know that I need to know it.
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16/09/2013
STREPHON
Sounds like youthful idealism meets fatigue in Pascal’s letter. It’s foolish
not to finish the degree; stop writing long-winded critiques of your profession
and get the job done. It’s not a perfect system; hell, it’s not a perfect
world, incase you hadn’t noticed. But it’s a world
where knowledge is power, and degrees demonstrate that you have some knowledge.
Grow up, before it’s too late.
If your goal is to reform the system, first master it. Start by getting the
degree.
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16/09/2013
TJ MARIN
Hello Author:
As one commenter
said, I’d get the PhD.
Doing something
of value requires: 1) Actual work that impacts a field and 2) Distributing the
information. The degree may assist in the distribution and acceptance. When you
have great insight – why impair the dissemination paths.
But the email
carries out a theme infecting, certainly, the USA. To Wit: In our big
institutions, we promote the wrong people in all areas: Government, business,
education and the military. People with a responsibility to hire for roles have
lost the ability to assess applicants. Reliance is on credentials and certifications.
As Christine Comaford recounted in her pity book, Rules for Renegades, a
GSD (Getting ‘Stuff’ Done) is what should count most
in hiring.
But a GSD is how
we hire vendors in the USA, but not how we hire and promote employees. This
email is may be a mold breaker – filled with
inconvenient truths – that Western sociality may be ‘paper’ chasing instead of
finding real achievers in all our most important institutions.
And – to share –
Joe Strauss built the Golden Gate Bridge. He had no engineering degree or
architecture degree. (For that he relied on Chas A Ellis.) FL Wright designed
many building before he ever got an architecture degree. Today – they’d both
have gotten nowhere.
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16/09/2013
KAY
I’m on the other
side of things as a somewhat recent graduate (got my PhD last year) currently
working as an alt-academic for a tier 1 university in the States.
Academia isn’t
for everyone. And it isn’t a perfect system. However for me to get out of my
dead-end technician job in not-so-big-pharma it was the only option. There’s
only so much you can do in my field with only a Bachelor of Science, few to no
professional contacts, and a few years of experience. The
piece of paper and list of professional contacts matters more than what I know.
So I played the game and am now much happier than I was as a tech and I’m doing
a far more rewarding job.
You can do a lot
with experience and formal training in cryptography. I wish you the best in
your future endeavors.
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16/09/2013
GENE
A very interesting letter, and as a
former researcher, … well … it strikes with great
familiarly. And with tendrils to the research community still, and an interest
in same, I sense a great deal of the same challenges existing in many areas
besides “pure science”).
@ Glenn: What letter did you read?
Did you pay attention, or take instant offense, deciding you needed to charge
forth with pen in hand on your mighty electronic steed to establish the knave
as stupid and unrealistic? For example, you comment: “3) You
sound very bitter that you chose a topic you’re not interested in. Original
research doesn’t mean you’ll cure cancer or win a Nobel Prize. But a thousand
people all doing a little piece of original research does advance science and
occasionally make for some amazing insights. We can’t all be astronauts.”
1) I sensed no bitterness, just a bit of frustration. Personally, I think the
letter was prepared professionally with decent clarity quite a large degree of
frankness. And I sensed no animosity toward — in general — his own institution
and to many of his colleagues and peers. He also
indicated before his comment appeared, that there were
other forces ALSO at work in his decision.
2) The author said he was NOT in the position of being stuck working on a
project that was of little interest to him. “” I don’t know where you found
reference otherwise.
3) I dare say that few PhD candidates actually choose their topic today.
Realistically, few have probably done so for decades. More likely than not, the
student was recruited to work in a particular area of science, a few “possible
projects” were tossed about, and when push came to shove, the student ended up
with whatever the advisor dumped into the student’s lap. I saw that happen with
one of my very best friends in grad school in the mid 1980’s — she hated the
work and the condescending attitude of the professor towards her. Of course,
the prof was probably Mensa level intelligence and was (is) very Sheldon-like
in terms of interpersonal skills (that is a reference to Dr Sheldon Cooper on
the American sit-com “Big Bang Theory” for those of you unfamiliar).
4) There are many scientific studies being published every year that fit into
the categories of “if -then” science; all based on the implicit or explicit
assumption that something or other will or will not occur and that will cause
something else. Thus we have seen the many published results of Anthropogenic
Global Warming/Climate Change/Climate Disruption that on the surface make no
sense: more drought, less drought; more rain, less rain; more hurricanes, fewer
hurricanes; more ice, less ice; more ecological diversity, less diversity;
stronger storms, weaker storms; and so on ad nauseum.
5) Really, you think that a PhD student would actually think he/she would
expect to attain a Nobel Prize in Science? That has got to be an exceptionally
rare student, and a truly “super-sized” ego, one that would probably fit in
well in academia.
Scientific fraud is known to be a
significant problem, and while it has existed since the beginning of time it
also includes efforts by jealous peers to trash the reputation of researchers.
Much of the time, however, it has it’s
origins elsewhere… Here are but two of 120 results of a search for the words
Scientific and Fraud on NatGeo’s website:
* http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2013/06/25/so-science-gets-it-wrong-then-what /
* http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2012/10/01/fraud-my-story-in-tomorrows-new-york-times/
There is also
“Misconduct accounts for the majority of retracted scientific publications”
published by the U.S. National Academy of Sciences… It would seem there are
problems of significance when: “…67.4% of retractions were attributable to
misconduct, including fraud or suspected fraud (43.4%), duplicate publication
(14.2%), and plagiarism (9.8%). Incomplete, uninformative or misleading
retraction announcements have led to a previous underestimation of the role of
fraud in the ongoing retraction epidemic. The percentage of scientific articles
retracted because of fraud has increased ∼10-fold since
1975.”
http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2012/09/27/1212247109
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17/09/2013
ROSST
We in academia
all live a very sheltered existence where we are fortunate enough to be
supported by society to work with other really smart, motivated people, seeking
things that we really believe in – education and research.
Because most
people in academia haven’t experienced anything else they tend to belly ache
about the fact that there are down sides and that the system isn’t perfect.
Tell it to a tax accountant who spends their whole time working within a faulty
tax system. Or a public servant where politicians constantly tinker with what
they do. Or a factory worker who doesn’t get the chance to
even dream of working for a goal that they truly believe in. I wonder
how many people rail against academia – and then when they get into the ‘real
world’ realize just how privileged they were. That’s certainly what I did.
I am an academic
– and incredibly lucky to work in a job that is seeking to further knowledge
and to educate. If you believe in those values then everything else is detail.
I have worked 6o hour weeks for most of my career. I don’t care. It’s been an
honour. I have had to manage people. That’s fun too. I have had to ‘play the
game’ of papers, grants and wordsmithing. Enjoyed the
challenge because it is about achieving something worthwhile and good.
I get that there
is a stage in your career when you have to make a decision about whether you
believe in the main values enough to ignore the detail. I get that people feel
a need to vent about making that decision and how angry and frustrated they
are.
But the sort of
indictment of academia that starts this thread is not only an unfair reflection
on those working within academia – it is exactly the sort of ammunition that
those that are anti-science and anti-university education will use to support
their case to cut public funds. And then the main values (education and
research) will be sacrificed because people are frustrated and angry.
Academia isn’t
broken – it isn’t perfect, but it is a much more fortunate, productive and
worthwhile endeavor than what many people in society
ever have the chance to imagine enjoying.
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17/09/2013
SEBASTIEN
Interesting
reading but, honestly, I don’t see the point of making such a fuss about
someone who didn’t like his job and decided to quit. It sounds lots of
frustration and misunderstanding here, or maybe whining and idealism… and
frankly I’m not sure industry or any kind of alternative position will bring
more comfort to the author. I recognize it takes some balls to quit a job “just
because you can’t stand it anymore”, especially when you are at a top-tier
institution with almost unlimited funding to make your life easier (I’m an EPFL
PhD), but I definitely have different opinions on the various arguments.
1. The rules are clear: if you do good research, you’ll be rewarded (I’ll come back
to the types of rewards later). Honesty is paramount on the long haul and good
results will always be recognized, even over not-so-good stuff that a better
speaker can “sell” better. As scientists, we are also trained to recognize
sound science over meaningless BS that some people might try to sell us.
2. Yeah, though life. You need to show how good you are before being the boss.
The generals get the medals while the soldiers fight, and the famous professors
get the prizes while the students do the monkey work. I don’t see how different
it is in the non-academic life. And honestly, there are certainly rotten fruits
but my advisors always went through all my publications and reports extremely
carefully – it might have taken months before I got feedback on a paper but it
was done.
3. It sounds very much like “it’s not working so it’s not interesting any
more”. What about side-projects and new ideas that come out event when you feel
like you’ve tried everything to make your stuff work? When you’re trying to
explore uncharted territories, you will always have to struggle, explain your
point, convince your advisor. So you better get the
data to support your claims, and build convincing arguments, especially if you
want to convince your boss his ideas are not working. Remember, until you prove
him wrong, he’s the expert – and you’re probably going to be grateful for that
at some point.
4.Here I can agree that the current short-term profit
and vision hamper long-term projects. That is sad, and I always take the Fourier
transform as an example, that was quite useless when elaborated in the ~1800s
and proved invaluable with the arising of analytical instruments in the second
half of the 20th century. Now, let’s face it: we are not going to cure cancer,
or solve the world energy problems just by ourselves. Thus, every brick we can
contribute with will help solving bigger problems. It’s not about avoiding real
issues, it’s about being realistic and tackling a problem at a time – and for
assessing what research is worth being pursued, I refer you to the Pasteur
quadrant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasteur%27s_quadrant).
If your project falls in the blank quadrant, well, maybe it’s time to move on
and find something that actually makes more sense.
5. I don’t agree here, although there is definitely a bandwagon effect. But
just repeating experiments done by people who already did them (with slightly
better or worse results) will not make a breakthrough. You might sustain a
low-tier research program that way, if it’s what you want, fine. But innovation
and creative ideas will always be rewarded, just not
everyone will be able to come up with paradigm-shifting discoveries. And like
everywhere, it’s not always easy to come up with ideas and results that will
shatter years of prior research done by tens of research groups. A good friend
of mine, one of the researchers I respect most, is still reluctant to reveal
the latest data their lab collected, not because they don’t trust their data,
but because they have to figure out how to present them to the community
without making too many enemies. There might be some politics and inertia but
it’s going to be the case everywhere – not just in the academic environment.
6. Well yeah, welcome to the real world. Science doesn’t happen just by itself.
It requires both money and talented people, for better or worse. Of course the
easiest way to classify people is to put numbers on them, such as the number of
publications or any variation on the ‘impact factor’ theme. Smart people know
not to give too much importance to these figures, but like everywhere, there
will be big egos and douchebags who will just care about their own H indices.
The EPFL dean praising good rankings just shows that the research performed is
internationally recognized (which indirectly benefits you, since it warrants
better funding!) and that it might (remember, it’s research, thus difficult to
predict) eventually impact the everyday life – like, the Graetzel
cells were not invented and perfected in one day, but when they will actually
get commercialized, they’ll make an impact on lot’s
of people’s life and the global environment (just to take one of many examples
from the EPFL). Even if rankings are just numbers, they reflect how the
research performed at a given school might impact on the outside world.
7. Egos are everywhere, I’m not sure you’ll be happier in industry from this
point of view. And regarding the peer review system, to paraphrase Winston Churchill:
“Peer review is the worst system, except for all those systems that have been
tried before”. Your peers are still the most qualified people to judge the
validity of your findings- so the system might change in the future, like,
become transparent, but it’ll persist IMHO, just because there is no other way
to assess the quality of research.
8. It academia necessary? Well if you don’t know why your project is important,
or why people should care about it, it probably is not important, and public
(or private) money could probably be spent elsewhere. But still. Academia
educates people to do research, be curious, look for the devil hiding in the
detail, push their limits, be critical, and eventually, yes, make progress in
research and perhaps try solve some big problems. It
also teaches resilience, honesty, and provides many highly-educated people, who
have the opportunity to make an impact wherever they chose to go.
In conclusion: I
pretty much agree with the letter from Sean (https://medium.com/p/d0dd648b7c4d), I
was also kind of offended by your letter, and I think there is no ambiguity: we
know what we’re getting into when we sign up for graduate studies (eg we might struggle with bad results, we might feel lost
and hate our advisors at times)- and if we don’t
agree, either we quit, or we try to make it a better (academic) world. From a
reasonable point of view, only the latter solution makes sense.
Good luck for you future endeavors!
148. REPLY
17/09/2013
FR.
The author
sounds like a courageous and lucid person, but there is a collection of such
letters lying around in various languages (I can cite at least three on the top
of my head, plus blog posts on the theme “why I left academia”), and his letter
is still one of the optimistic ones.
The word “paid”
appears only once, as “underpaid”. It seems that all PhD candidates at EPFL are
funded in some way or another. This is far from the case in any of
Switzerland’s neighbor countries. Everything that is
described in this letter is true, and even more clear
when you are technically working for free.
My point is: in
most countries, academia hosts a large, unpaid group of workers that also
happens to be the pool of incumbents for its job market, and that contributes a
lot to the kind of environment described in the letter. It’s not a minor aspect
of the question from where I stand.
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17/09/2013
KAVI
I recently
changed fields and am now in business. At least in business people are upfront
about being in it for the money. Academia will only change when mindless
publishing stops becoming the measurement of progress/success. The academic
path has gone horribly horribly wrong and there is a
declining number of positions in academia too, so the future of post-grad
students is bleak (http://www.continental-philosophy.org/2013/09/13/the-adjunct-crisis-an-infographic-progressive-geographies/).
Academia is
killing some great minds!
150. REPLY
17/09/2013
KAVI
@Sebastien … and
everyone else that seems to be in denial about the state of the academic
system…
THE FACT THAT
THIS LETTER WENT VIRAL…. SAYS SOMETHING, DOESN’T IT
I’ll let you
deduce what that might be
151. REPLY
17/09/2013
IMPRESSED
This letter is
very impressive!. I hope it starts a movement that changes
how science is done. The system awards only a “certain type of thinkers” while
leaving anyone who does not fit that standard out in the cold. Not to mention
the old boys/girls club.
152. REPLY
17/09/2013
MARK HUNTER
Terry A. Davison above wrote:
Thomas Edison spent his late years in courtrooms … he fought against AC power
with deception because his was DC.
All wrong. First, he spent some time
in court and won a patent infringement suit against Westinghouse, which had
stolen the “three-wire power distribution system” he had invented.
Second, AC is “natural” current in
that it is the type of current produced by the generator. You must go out of
your way to change it to DC. Edison made the conversion to DC because it is far
safer than AC. (AC has an economic advantage when used with transformers, too
technical to describe in a short space.)
Oddly enough, for the very long range
transfer of power today power companies have gone back to DC. It saves on
self-inductance losses.
153. REPLY
18/09/2013
CASPER
Pretty much
agree with whatever the author of the letter has to say.
Anybody who’s
offended by this letter needs therapy. If you get offended by such things, then
you should essentially live in isolation and not communicate with others in
fear of getting offended.
Publish or
Perish is the academic mantra. If you ask me, that is the
problem.
154. REPLY
18/09/2013
CHRIS REEVE
See Disciplined
Minds by Jeff Schmidt. We are going in circles, guys. All of this stuff has
already been covered, and if you talk to newer grad students, they don’t even
know who Jeff Schmidt is …
It’s very sad.
155.REPLY
18/09/2013
PIEZEN
@Sebastien: “The
rules are clear: if you do good research, you’ll be rewarded”
Yup. But in practice, the rules are not applied in this
manner. You can do excellent research and get nothing — I’m thinking of a
colleague with two papers in “Science”.
Conversely, we
see the stars in some fields revealed to be hacks who made up their
experimental results — not incompetent people, mind you, they had to know what
to make up; but it is gross injustice that these con men recieve
the positions, the fundings, the honours, strangling
the careers of others in appearance slightly less (and in reality much more)
deserving, and be punished with big fat salaries in the private sector when
they are found out.
In such an
environment, the cry of “do good research, you’ll be rewarded” is akin to
Stephen Colbert’s “We can all be in the richest 1%”. Joe the Plumber has the
excuse of being a manipulable ignorant; we academics
have no such mitigating circumstances.
156. REPLY
18/09/2013
GARY DEERING
Get real, cry baby “academicians” and
wannabe Ph. D.’ers. Read my book Yes. (Is BiO Spiritualism the answer?) on amazon.com and then also
my book, Selfish’ism and then continue to link and
read all my material on the web that I started putting there in the last decade
of the 20th Century. The “solution” is to go-galt-in-spirit
and become the patron of your own arts – by whatever means it takes, be it
working as a waiter in some local restaurant or coffee shop or peon in a big
box store. The fun of deciding your own research topics and then working on
them is beyond compare. The pain of never having anyone see them or read them
is real for sure but at the end of the day it is pretty small in comparison to
the pure joy of doing what you want and then writing up your own—COPYRIGHTED
(as in TIME STAMPED in the YEAR YOU FEEL finished)—book about some aspect of
your particular interest, is really all a true scientist needs. Being read by
others and making money on your love interests is as they say,
gravy. The only real requirement for this to succeed for you is that you are
truly writing and thinking and researching in a field of study that you
absolutely love – and at the same time making enough money by some productive
means to live on. For me that love interest is psychology and I managed to get
to the Masters Level before it dawned on me that I couldn’t stomach all their
“errors” let alone their BS.
Now having said all of the foregoing
my biggest fear is that I will unleash some super-duper intelligent people
currently imprisoned in the world of professional academics who will also be
interested in psychology and beat me to the punch in many of psych(h)ology’s
remaining to be explored areas.
But, what the hey, there’s still
plenty of room for everybody and I also have enough of a head start in my areas
of interest that I’m not all that worried.
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18/09/2013
KRISHNAN
Very well said. As an assistant professor — in a prestigious private
university in the Eastern part of the US —
on my way out of academia, I have struggled with many of these questions
myself. What the writer says about “spam” from the Dean, reminded me of all the
spam I received. I would go one step further. The faculty meetings also, more
often that not, dealt with departmental rankings,
faculty statistics, and such. I often wondered, what is the point of all this?
Why has
the emphasis on teaching and education been so trivialized?
Do not know a
solution to fix the balance, but perhaps minimizing the importance of indirect
costs (from grants) in the
running of universities might be a start. That would force faculty to ask why
they are in this endeavor in the first place.
158. REPLY
19/09/2013
ED
There is
certainly a great deal here that is true, but it does a huge disservice to the
vast majority of your colleagues who are still pursuing idealistic goals of
research with full integrity.
Academic
research has led to a huge number of spectacular advances in the last half
century and it has done so with very little of the ugliness that one sees in
the corporate jungle. You cannot deny that.
In fact, money,
or more precisely the scarcity of money, does poison the system and turns
highly trained scientific thinkers into second-rate capitalists always in
search of more funding for their projects. It makes the system exploitative,
such that people pour years of their lives into doing research in order to
obtain that independent faculty position one day, a day that for most will
never arrive.
But I would
argue that the real problem is a society that has come to value income and
wealth over actual contributions to society. Being paid $40,000 as a postdoc
with 5 years of PhD under your belt, mainly because the carrot of a faculty job
is held out somewhere in the indeterminate future, seems like exploitation if
money is how you measure success. But imagine being given access to some truly
amazing equipment and the funding to carry out investigations into some
question that you are truly passionate to answer…. and then on top of that
being paid cash money for the privilege! It’s not so awful when you consider
the opportunity we scientists are given. Do some start to blindly pursue fame
and grant funding and lose sight of the more idealistic aims? Perhaps, but we
scientists are all human after all. Receiving recognition in the form of media
coverage and grant funding is the closest thing we have to outside approval and
endorsement of our work. We all want to be told we’re doing a good job and
that’s how it is done. Maybe some weaker souls become addicted to the praise
and forget why they needed it in the first place.
But no, I don’t
believe for one moment that academia has lost its way and is now nothing more
than a way to bring in money. If that were the case, we would be doing a pretty
lousy job of it, given the massive cuts in research funding these days. Nobody
is living high on the hog on research grants. I think that if one were to ask
whether all the criticisms enumerated above apply to any job in any field he
would find not only that they do, but also that once those things were removed
there would be nothing left. At least with science the data lives on.
159. REPLY
19/09/2013
DREAMER
@Rob I
completely agree with you. I am still in Academics and I am trying fight for
the right cause.
160. REPLY
19/09/2013
WRONG TIMING
I agree with the
author’s points, but I don’t think quitting your PhD when it’s almost done is
the smartest thing to do. He should have perservered
a little more. What he did is just make himself less employable. I don’t think
potential employers would be impressed with his reasons for quitting. True, the
academe works like a business or a corrupt system, just like industries,
governments, entertainment, families and anywhere else where there is money,
people and incentives involved. People just publish for the sake of publishing
solving irrelevant problems or tweaking parameters of the same old stuff.
Students just waste money hopping conference after conference without producing
any new output, many just bringing crappy recycled posters. Supervisors have no
idea what their co-authored publications are all about. Data is cherry
picked/manipulated and stories are twisted just to make them look good… We will
never escape this ugly reality. We could just do our best with what we have,
where we are,and strive
against odds just like how the rest of the world creates real progress. He
would do more if he had a “PhD” attached to his name, whether or not he
continues to the academe. He could even be like the other people in academe
that he respects. It’s not that quitting is bad especially when you are no
longer challenged or inspired, but the timing he chose is bad, i.e. close to
finishing when the pressure is high and feel like giving up… unless perhaps
he’s planning to be self employed and change the
game.
161.REPLY
20/09/2013
ABDUL BASIT AHMAD
The interesting thing to notice here
is that how neatly the people are divided in their opinion along the same lines
as they are along the teacher-student divide.
Teachers – the skags
– are all about how the kid is a burnout and such.
Students – they are all agreeing as
this is a fact – this is the absolute truth about the nature of academia.
1. Professors get paid and get cited
from the research that grad students do.
2. Grad students have no say(in many cases) in what
they research.
3. Grad students are criminally underpaid.
4. Research is a dick-measuring competition. Impact factor is inches.
A very significantly large number of
students would agree with what the author has said, especially if they (the
students) has at one point nursed romantic thoughts about what research(and
science) ought to be.
Teachers would disagree,
they have been in academia for far too long, so they know what it really is
about. Well that impact factor and that citation is the ONLY quantifiable
measure of how productive their research is! Would Prof.X’s
research on ethics be the basis of all human civilization a hundred years from
now? Maybe, he hopes so, but all he has to measure it, is that impact factor!
His value as a human being is derived from that impact factor.
Students on the other hand, want to
change the world, have always wanted to change the world. To
understand, to explain, to cure the world of its ills. No such thing is
going to happen. This “disillusionment” is thus going to happen, because
eventually the student realizes that he has no say in the system – not even the
area he wants to research in.
There shouldn’t really be a fight for
ideology between these two groups. There is no way this discussion can be had
in real life, no grad student has the gall to say that his(or
her) adviser’s research area is of no use to the universe, even when it is!
What does that say about the nature of grad students? Meek, cowards! Bullied in school – most likely.
The true irony is that grad students
go on to become professors themselves.
Academia – wasted on the academics.
162. REPLY
20/09/2013
MOHAMAMD H.
ANSARI
Hi,
I can add a few
more items to your list that in the case you changed your decision and got your
degree anyway, you may experience them too. But, note that in almost majority
of jobs you may find hypocrite and dishonest people too. In modern science
people can be so, and sometimes because they are
smarter they could be worse.
Some of the
problem you see in Academia is only due to their personal weaknesses, not the
weaknesses in Sciences they follow. Note that Science is already existed and
Scientists are digging to only discover its pieces. Here I only put my focus on
this part, which I could not read in all of the above replies.
Scientists are
smart but some of them perhaps are oversmart that
they do not realize their attitudes for making others attracted to science is
not proper. For instance, I know a scientist who wrote public science book and
in that they clearly state that based on the second law of thermodynamics if
somebody said something not proper to you, since time is not reversed, your
relation shall never get healed! You can imagine how eccentric should be the
relationship between this scientist and their students! Compare this piece of
advice, as an example, with all other advices from great people in the past
that we need to forgive each other. You assume that how horrible the world
becomes if people start listening to his second law of thermodynamics, instead
of following social ethics (*). Mind functions independent than one’s belief
system and a great scientist can easily be a damage to
ethics.
There is a fast
approach in the universities toward growing mental health services, specially in the Northern America.
Did you ever think why is so? Isn’t this alarming that
there are currently many conflicts between students/postdocs and their
supervisors that a third party is needed to properly find a resolution. Who
should be blamed? The professor, the student, or their second
law of thermodynamics?!
The main problem
in Academia is that the Ethics of Science is not a credit course during the
undergraduate studies. People are left unassisted on their decisions, and if
they fall into the trap that how great minded they are, they may easily follow
their version of the second law of thermodynamics instead of a supporting behaviour.
The contents of such a course should not be restricted only to the behaving
with mice in the lab. We must bring human-human interaction to the rules.
Scientist never learn that they are not allowed to steal ideas from their
students/postdocs/colleagues; must report their results faithfully, must stop
informally and indirectly asking grad student to get pleasing results by
staying at nights and on weekends in the lab, etc.
In the past
centuries, the mathematicians and scientists in Asia, Middle East and Europe
knew about the importance of ethics in Academia and already wrote important
books on this subject. Scientists needed to forget about ethics in order to
become able to create mass destructive devices. But not those who are involved
in such production are the few who should be blamed. In the weaker regime, only
a person who has never opened up a book in ethics can invite new students to skeptical science he/she is working on, just as tools to
intensify the hunger for the uncertain sciences.
My single piece
of advice is that if your supervisor cannot open your mind to the joy of
Science and its importance, I strongly advice you change your supervisor.
Search a lot for an honest scientist and start again. Do not fall in trap with
the names, look at the future of his/her students. If you see the majority of
the students have quitted Academia earlier for other jobs, this may happen to
you too!
Regards,
Mohammad H. Ansari
——————————-
(*) By the way I apologize from the second law of thermodynamics, which is a
great law, for this misconception.
163. REPLY
20/09/2013
DAN SINGLETON
Hmmm. Here is my experience. I tried industry after my B.S.,
but no one was ever going to listen to my ideas. In retrospect, they were right
– I thought I knew everything but I was just ignorant, without a clue.
So I went to
grad school. I got paid to go to school, a new experience not found in many
areas, and it would not have occurred to me to complain. I worked hard and got
out quickly after coming up with some things that my advisor did not think
about. He taught me things to start, he pushed me, he payed
the bills, and he helped me move on.
I postdoc’d and I got paid a little more as I learned more.
I then went into
academics. To get the job I had to beat out 150 other applicants. To survive I
have had to publish and get grant money and convince graduate students to work
on my research instead of that of others. I worked very hard to succeed and I
still do 25 years later.
Publication has
largely meant doing what interests me, but always keeping an
vague eye toward completing projects and making it fundable and making it
doable by inexperienced graduate students who are just like I once was. Such
constraints add to the difficulty but I have never found it impossible to find
interesting things to do.
Are my ideas
worthwhile? Am I able to be brutally honest about it? Who knows? I suppose that
my research has often been dismissed as completely worthless by graduate
students (who of course never have big egos). But to be brutally honest, I
worry a lot more about what the members of funding study sections think than
what graduate students think. To do anything at all I have to convince study
sections that my work is better than 9 out of 10 of the other proposals that
they see at the same time. Every one of the other proposals is from someone who
beat out 150 applicants to get their job, and “sells” their work, and worries
about their image, and is strategic in their vocabulary, and networks, and
makes a good presentation. Still, weirdly, when I have been on study sections,
the arguments seem to focus on whether ideas will work and whether they will
have an impact.
Regardless of
whether my very basic research is worthwhile or “of marginal importance,” when
I succeed at getting money I can recruit and pay my graduate students. I can
then teach them to do research that will be published with my name on it (oh,
the “gross unfairness”), and at the end they can get a job that pays a lot of
money. In theory. In practice, it has mostly worked
out, but far from always, and that has been the part of the system that bothers
me the most. I have fired students that I considered to be friends. I have seen
students every day for five years, then had them go
off to a good job but get laid off after two years or have their whole company
shut down after eight. I have seen some struggle in a tough job market. I hate
that.
I complain as
much as anyone else, in some ways more, and the system is pretty imperfect. But
I have missed the part where anyone is chained to their lab bench. By all
means, if you don’t like it and will actually like something else more, leave.
I also missed where academics is worse than other paths. My brothers were
construction workers, and I worked construction summers during college. That
sucks, believe me. Academics does not suck. And I am
not apologizing.
164. REPLY
21/09/2013
NICKCHOP
I’m a late year
PhD student. I get what you’re saying and have seen much of the same. That being said, go get your ass back in the lab and finish
your damn diss.
165. REPLY
22/09/2013
FORMER ACADEMIC
Ed wrote:
“Academic research has led to […] with very little of the ugliness that one
sees in the corporate jungle. You cannot deny that.”
I don’t know
what what ugliness you are referring to is, but as a
female former academic who is now in the corporate “jungle”, I can tell you
about one type of ugliness that academia has a lot more of.
When I was
unhappy about the way my phd
work was going and went to speak to my advisor about it, I couldn’t tell
whether he was listening because he never took his eyes off my breasts. I left
that supervisor. When I went to my first conference, a professor suggested that
I do my eyebrows and wear tighter trousers. At another conference, one of the
professors (who I could assume would be reviewing my papers, grant
applications, etc) made a very explicit pass at me on
the first evening and avoided me for the rest of the conference.
Some of this of
ugliness does occur in small companies as well (I was at a startup
which was almost as bad as academia) but in corporates
there are HR departments that enforce a couple of basic rules. There is gender
discrimination everywhere, but in any large company there will not be anything
that comes close to the constant sexual harassment that many academics allow
themselves.
166. REPLY
23/09/2013
I HAD ONE OF
THOSE
I just want to
mention a few misconceptions of a few dreamers commenting here. Fighting the
system inside and other nonsense being put out every ~10 comments,
1) The argument
is weak: Oh really, would you like fries with that? What would you expect from
a letter that is sent internally, a full blown publication with citations? Now
you are sitting in front of your computer and judging the author by his/her
argument, seriously? meh, boring right? Well you have
been playing the part that helped to create and sustain this system, reviewing
peer papers in 10 minutes, writing up ridiculous reviews which are two lines
long. Spreading your nerd anger all over the place in
conferences while holding your coffee in one hand and your weird “dossier” full
of your nonsense in the other. Attention span and
extrapolation. Cite these concepts in your next paper.
2) Sorry to hear
that the author had bad experience but we are not like that, hihihi, sorry: Well if you claim to be a true academic just
look at the statistics. I mean look at the stats and grad student suicide rates
in US only. I’m serious just open a browser page and study!!! As you claim to
do science. No, don’t comment now! Open up a new tab
and spend at least 20 mins. Since when did you stop calculating exactly? You
give me one good example I’ll bring thousand. So your lack of empathy is one of
the major concerns. you don’t even worry that this
might be true. An academic is responsible from the consequences of anything
that is worth of studying. And clearly you are not. You and your success
stories are simply statistically insignificant.
3) The academia
is not wrong it’s misused. Look an aeroplane, how would it be possible without it ! Hail to the king: Well, excuse me while I yawn and wait
for you to finish your argument. To all the nerds out there, technology
!= science. For theoretically oriented ones !=
is ≠ in some programming languages. And starting from companies like Bell
labs, academia always served technology. Never managed to push things the
moment research grants and funds with conccrete goals
are established. Grant money defines what is researched. Supervisors beg for
grants ad infinitum…. Please we have Phds too don’t
play the naivity card on us. Look at the world-wide
acknowledged physicists on youtube. Even they have to
justify every 5 minutes why science is necessary. Look MRI scanner, look GPS……
I’m sorry but a theoretical physicist justifying his work is simply lame. It’s
not that non technical people think that academia is
useless. It is evident that academia is failing to keep its unspoken promise. Instead keeping the kournal publishers
happy and crunching numbers which represent actual lives of idealist people.
4) You don’t
like it because you couldn’t *make* it: Oh you people are my favorite I don’t even
need to make an argument for you. History is full of your kind.
Love and
kisses….
167. REPLY
23/09/2013
OLIVIER
Let’s be
positive here! If you want to do good research, then you should run after true
problems.
168. REPLY
24/09/2013
JONGAM PARK
I understand
your decision.
I felt the exactly same thing.
I would like to salute your life laid in front of you from now on.
169. REPLY
24/09/2013
WILL MOON
Wish to dedicate
this article to Mr. Julian Hoseason (M.Phil) the Academic dean of Glion Institute of Higher
Education (G.I.H.E.). Even as a
undergraduate student, I have learnt by heart that having originality in
dissertation ultimately hurts me. Also have learnt to simply
say no with the authority, ‘you misunderstand the situation so you figure out
by yourself, I do not give clues or any logical persuasion’. I
personally thank you for giving the biggest lesson from GIHE. This great
disappointing experience, for sure, will become a huge asset to my future
career. Wish all the best to your very convenient life!
170. REPLY
24/09/2013
GARY MCDOWELL
I’t’s so interesting to see that this experience is
international. I’m British and have just spent two miserable years at Harvard
Medical School as a postdoc, which I am leaving at the end of this week. I
don’t necessarily agree with every single point in the letter but I am still a
bit of an optimist. However I completely agree about egos and the role of the
principal investigator in actually checking over results – I was very badly
burned by this this year. Good luck to the author and I’m glad that they also
feel they have learned a lot from this experience – I certainly have felt that
with my situation. I’m moving on to try another postdoc because I don’t want to
give up on this yet, and I know there are scientists out there who buck this
trend, whose ranks I would like to join to be able to encourage other young
scientists, something I have tried to do to a small extent already. Many thanks
for sharing.
171. REPLY
24/09/2013
KIM
@Gary McDowell, shoutout from South Korea, I’m not fully into PhD yet, but
the situation does not seem to be very different here. This IS international,
isn’t it?
Thank you FeuDRenais and Pascal for making this
public.
172. REPLY
25/09/2013
LEE
Although not
fully agreed to the post, I am glad to see that there are still some people to
examine hidden problems in academia. I studied Accounting in Canada and Korea
for undergraduate and Master’s (although no PhD experience, I saw and did the
works what PhD candidates did for professors), and I think it is the experience
not only international, but also beyond the major we study.
Thank you for
the post, and best of luck in everybody(especially,
writer)’s future endeavours!
173. REPLY
26/09/2013
BLASIO
Great letter! As
a phD student at the University of Lausanne, I share
exactly the same consideration as the author of this clever text
! However, I think there are obvious ways to heal this perverted
academic systems. You mentionned some hints in your
letter, I could add :
1) De-privatisation of the publication lobby which is owning science and
distributing results only agains outrageously
expensive licenses that only rich academia can buy
2) Better valorisation of the teaching within the academy. Currently, mostly
research performance in taken into account in the rankings (although we should
go beyond the ranking approach)
Best wishes for
the future !
174. REPLY
26/09/2013
EGG HEAD
Great letter! I
would have to add that scientific community is falling into scientism. Though I
am not saying all people in science (generalization is always inappropriate),
many of young scientists are alienated for having other interests such as
philosophy or art. With the new atheism movement, this is getting worse.
Christian Schmemann (previous commentator) has
pointed it very well. I think what people need to do is through policy making.
Government research grants are also supposedly assessed together with public
engagements and publication in open-access journals.
175.REPLY
27/09/2013
COLONEL
Many true facts
inside the letter. Still one point I disagree with the author is that I don’t
believe academia is in reality the entity that promotes science nowadays. It’s
mainly the role of the industry and the research centres that deal with real
scientific projects. Universities are solely there for giving out degrees.
176. REPLY
30/09/2013
ROSA
I’m setting up a
blog which will explore the issues we face in the academic world. Issues like
open access, importance of citation and impact factor, quality of publications
due to pressure to publish, funding, methodological problems, politics we face
in the department or in the field and any general dishonesty we come across and
how the spirit of research can survive them. The hope is to raise enough voices
to cause a change, not just complain and vent (though that’s ok too).
I’m looking for
more authors to get more voices, perspectives esp from fields different to mine. You could
contribute with your own experiences, or send in links once in a while of
related topics other people have written about so we can ‘reblog’
and discuss, or if you’re very enthusiastic, you can even become a regular
author with more than a few contributions.
Let me know if
you’re interested, I also recommend using pseudonyms considering how easy it is
to google people nowadays.
177.REPLY
30/09/2013
JADED
Thank you for
sharing this. As was stated and affirmed by man previous posters, this problem
is experienced internationally.
I’m a PhD
student from the University of Sydney and I’ve recently decided to suspend my
candidature (willingly) because of the same reasons outlined in this letter. I
entered the PhD knowing full well some of the points raised, but thought that I
could turn a blind eye and overcome them with grit, hard work and/or that they
won’t affect me.
I’m exactly
halfway through my PhD and I’ve come to realise that the entire system is too self-serving,
nepotistic, inefficient and sometimes downright immoral. As such, I’m trying to
use this break to figure out and decide for myself whether I want to truly
pursue a PhD through to its end in light of all these negative points.
Like the author,
I share many of the same thoughts and feelings and I hope change does come
around. I don’t know how but I do know that this letter is a first step in
opening dialogue and serving as a rallying ‘battle cry’ of sorts in recognising
this is a widespread and real issue. These problems are too rooted in academia
as a whole to ignore.
H.F.
178. REPLY
30/09/2013
RICHARD RANSOM
I think that this graduate student’s comments are the
result of a surprisingly mature understanding of how the reward system in
academic science has changed its nature under the twin pressures of status and
money. Money, and the ‘businessification’ of science
have altered the scientific landscape – Michael Crichton, despite what issues I
have with some of his conclusions, has provided some concise and powerful
descriptions of how money has warped science – and it’s certainly unsettling
how the current reality clashes with an early paradigm of scientists laboring selflessly in the ivory towers of academic
science, objectively assessing their own lives as well as their data. We should
be concerned about this, since academics in general (along with large religious
organizations) are one of the last great bastions of the old, outdated style of
corporate management. We don’t even pretend to educate future scientific
administrators on good management practices. Scientists go directly from an
experimental and manuscript-oriented post-doc to running a group, something
they’ve generally received no training for – and, more importantly, something
that isn’t seen as a priority to their bosses, other than the value of getting
as much from their underlings for as little effort as possible. Sweatshop is
not too strong a term for some labs I’ve worked in myself.
Her other major point is one that’s almost
universally held but generally not talked about among professionals. Namely,
that our current system is spiraling slowly down to
short-term, ‘safe’ investigations that spin off fluff papers on the way. Even
if your program isn’t focused on the investigation that will only yield its
preliminary results in ten years, our programs don’t come up with publishable
findings like clockwork, and when they do, it takes a good year’s worth of work
to bring them to current publication standards. When I started out, a Journal
of Clinical Investigation paper had 4-8 figures, while a current paper in JCI
has at least that many – each of which is the equivalent of an older JCI paper,
i.e., has 4-6 panels –- not to mention the 4-12 supplemental data figures.
Science is becoming an -industrial- business, with necessary economies of
scale. Small, home-town science shops are being run out of business by big-box
conglomerates. Along with that change comes a focus on
volume product at a reasonable price, which translates to pumping out safe
manuscripts to justify the large groups, multiple grants, and major
institutional investment. Big business can do things that cottage industry
can’t – but you’ll notice that big box stores are starting to go out of
business in favor of smaller enterprises that focus
on quality and service. There are things that cottage industry can do this Big
Business can’t – or won’t – do.
The primary message we should take home from this
letter is that we need to clean house. We’ve all gone along with the program
because we want tenure, or the grant, or to avoid antagonizing the current
clique so we could get our results published. And we’ve gone along with it
because scandal is SO poisonous in science, especially in light of the flag of
purity and truth we’ve wrapped ourselves in. Yes, you’re so busy writing more
grants so that you can keep your business afloat that you can’t be bothered
with how the whole ship is listing to port – until you end up failing to make
tenure because you didn’t pay attention to what the humans have made of your
pure scientific endeavor, both the ones funding it
(the public), running it, or working for _you_.
Best on your post-non-doctoral future, and remember
that if it isn’t fun – why not?
179. REPLY
30/09/2013
FEUDRENAIS
Since most
people posting here probably don’t read most of the other posts, I will repost
this info where it’s more visible (i.e., at the bottom).
There is a group
on Facebook (and on Google) that has formed as a reaction to this letter. It
may be found here:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/586805534699776/
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!forum/honest-science
Please don’t
hesitate to join if you would like to work for better academia/science with
other people who do as well. We are (slowly, but steadily) becoming organized
and will soon start working on some initial projects to tackle the different
issues.
180. REPLY
01/10/2013
REMI
@Alfred Charles
you are spot on with constructive ideas on how to reorganize university
education. The question is still what to do with so many people with so many
degrees? what kind of skills those degrees entail, are
they good enough for world outside academia?
I am also not stranger to the sentiments in the letter, but I don’t think it’s fair to blame on the entire field.
Publication-wise, I do think it’s important to publish, since that’s the only
proof that some science has been done. Quality of many publications may be
disputable, but that’s something that can be improved, by raising the bar. I
don’t know how peer review works, I mean does reviewer
get manuscript without knowing who is the author. If that’s the case, then it’s
fair enough; no conflict of interest can interfere. But if not, it needs to be
changed.
Professors shouldn’t be tenured, period. Most of them, especially in tier2 and
3 schools (and that’s a lot) just suckle on their professorship until the end
of their days, and if they keep research group, their students fare pretty
badly due to the lack of publications, possibility to network, spending time in
non-stimulating environment etc.
Also training grad students shouldn’t be the job of only one advisor;
‘ownership’ of students by one advisor makes plenty of room for power abuse,
that needs to stop.
181.REPLY
03/10/2013
GOTPHDIN2004THENQUIT
@FeuDRenais
As a former
Ph.D. student, I feel sympathetic with you. I happen to have not suffered that
much, finished the Ph.D then switched to writing
software right after, for a mixture of reasons.
Are the reasons
pushing academia to its current state so specific to academia
? My answer : no.
If this is true, then you will find similar trouble in most contexts. As Chris
Reeve wrote above, “See Disciplined Minds by Jeff Schmidt. We are going in
circles, guys. All of this stuff has already been covered”.
AAMOF, I quit hired
jobs because of required subordination to practices that I believed were
inefficient. But before that I took the opportunity for a
honest talk with the company’s boss and founder (which may or may not have been
useful to him and the company, at least I tried). You might go to that route,
too.
Can you read French ? On http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandre_Grothendieck
> Grothendieck obtient
un poste de professeur associé
au Collège de France où, plutôt que d’enseigner les mathématiques – ce qu’on attend de lui – il dispense un cours intitulé « Faut-il continuer la recherche scientifique ? ». Son affectation n’est pas renouvelée :
« une majorité de professeurs du Collège de France
a voté contre, une première dans l’histoire de la vénérable
institution ».
I don’t know for
what reasons he did that, but your story recalled that fact.
Respectful
regards,
182. REPLY
04/10/2013
JENI
I think a PhD
student has penned an open letter that was designed to go viral in order to
complete their PhD study that is based on individuals hiding behind their
computers and thinking that they have the right to say whatever they like to
whomever we like.
We all got
played.
But great PhD
research!
183. REPLY
07/10/2013
MIRKA
I believe all of
your points are very true in many scientific departments. However, why not to
get a PhD if you’re already so close, unless you have an excellent opportunity
elsewhere which absolutely cannot wait? I’m not saying having a PhD is a
precondition for success but often it gives additional weight to your opinions
(and resume). Even though you won’t continue doing academic research, and you
feel that the degree itself has nothing to do with your qualifications for
other jobs, it may still prove otherwise, taking into account that the first
people to read your cv when formally applying for a
job, are the recruiters with no great insight into your area of expertise. At
the very least, that’s my experience.
184. REPLY
08/10/2013
PHIL GOETZ
I have complaints
about academia, but they don’t overlap with (and sometimes contradict) the ones
in that letter.
1. The most-important thing for academic success is to have
rich parents. You will be judged your entire career by what graduate school you
went to, and graduate school admissions pay a great deal of attention to what
undergraduate school you went to. The entire academic system is predicated on
the assumption that good students go to good undergrad schools; if you didn’t
go to a top-tier undergrad school, you will probably be locked out of grants
and good positions for the rest of your career. Check the fraction of prominent
scientists in your field with non-Ivy credentials if you doubt me. Yet in the
US, a top-tier school costs about $60,000/yr,
including expenses. The US government will loan you up to $10,000/yr. The only
merit scholarships at any top-tier US schools that are open to white, Asian, or
Indian males that provides more than a few thousand dollars per year are
military scholarships. The fraction of students whose family can afford such a
school is smaller than the fraction of students who could do well at such a
school.
This was
emphatically not the case before 1970. I compiled a list of the undergraduate
institution attended by every Nobel laureate in physics. Before 1970, many
laureates went to obscure undergraduate institutions, and a very large
fraction, possibly most, of those who went to elite institutions did so on
full-tuition scholarships (which were so abundant that some schools had scholarship-student
dorms!), even though those institutions were MUCH cheaper back then. Many of
them said in their autobiographies that they could not have gone to college at
all without those scholarships. After 1970, the only ones who went to non-elite
undergrad schools were astronomers who went to schools that were considered
elite within astronomy because they had big telescopes, and few of them had
much financial support.
2. The problem
is not that people work on theoretical rather than applied problems; it’s just
the opposite. There have been many studies of the effectiveness of basic vs.
applied research, and the results are, roughly, that basic research (meaning
you have no application in mind!) is at least 10 times as cost-effective as
applied research /even when measured by impact on applied research/. The way to
cure cancer is not to try to cure cancer; it’s to have people work on the
things we currently don’t understand but are able to study, whatever they are.
Yet our funding agencies fund approximately no basic research, and little risky
applied research.
3. There should
be fewer $1,000,000 dollar grants and more $10,000 grants. The existing system
provides few ways to bridge the gap between an idea and a $1,000,000 R1
proposal. The NIH’s National Institute of General Medical Sciences, their
“basic research” institute, did a study a few years ago to determine the
optimal grant size, and concluded it was a few million, scoring grants by
number of resulting publications. They did NOT consider the size of the grant
as part of the score in their calculation of optimal grant size. I’m not making
this up. If you take their data and do so, you see it’s going to be far off the
lower end of the scale, under $100K.
4. Investigator
experience, citation count, and college attended or lab worked in should not be
the major factors in grant proposal evaluation. It’s a catch-22: You can’t get
a grant because you don’t have publications because you didn’t get a grant. The
investigator’s identity should probably be blinded from the reviewers.
5. Grant review
panels should be interdisciplinary. With the NIH, the principal investigator
pretty much has to be a biologist or M.D., which hampers innovative approaches
to omics and big data. The NIH would never have funded our successful project
to sequence the human genome–that’s a historical fact; Craig left them because
they said so–because its key innovations were computational, and nobody in
administration or on review panels understood computation. Looking at the
publications from research funded by the NIAID’s Bioinformatics and
Computational Biosciences Branch, you’ll see even they don’t fund projects led
by computer scientists or bioinformaticians!
5. Some money
should be allocated for taking finished research and applying it. I don’t mean
applied research; I mean straightforward conversion of research software into
production software. In my field, automated protein function annotation, there
are at least a hundred papers from funded research projects over the past 20
years on how to combine multiple pieces of evidence to infer annotation, and I
don’t think any of them have been used by anybody. We also have the problem
that funding agencies like to fund construction of new software and knowledge
resources, but don’t like to fund the maintenance of existing ones, so much
effort in bioinformatics goes into constructing new informatics resources,
marketing them, and then letting them die after 3 years when funding runs out.
6. Anyone smart
enough to do good science is too smart to go into science. The salaries of
doctors, lawyers, and bankers have skyrocketed since 1960, while the salaries
of scientists have hardly changed. Possibly unionization would help, although
this would probably result in tightly restricting the numbers of accredited
scientists, as the doctors’ and lawyers’ unions do.
185. REPLY
11/10/2013
UNCONVENTIONAL
1) Split
strictly fundamental (basic) research from applied research, fairly 20-80 ratio. Fund basic research from state
funding (guaranteed) and optionally from private/competitive grants.
2) All faculty
doing applied research (corresponding to 80% of academic research) is forced to
take a paid leave from academia for 3 years and join the research arm of an
industrial player , before promotion to full professorship. Promotion decision
takes – with a significant weight – the business outcome (industrial impact of
research outcome, research commercialization success, relevance to the future
of the business) of the academic’s stay in industry (real-world….)
186. REPLY
14/10/2013
PAUL GREGORY
Having read most
of the comments as well as the main article, before I say what I have to say,
let me state where I am coming from: I did not study science and am not in the
academic world. I am seriously a philosopher with a decades-old interest
in ethics and politics.
Nothing I have read here has surprised me; most is what I have surmised or have
observed before, though it has been good to read it here with unusual clarity.
There are solutions, or the beginnings of solutions. But nothing will work
unless there are people of sound character (as the original contributor);
furthermore, there must be mechanisms in place such that, if there is no reward
for those of sound character, there is at least punishment for some (inevitably
not all) of those who are without.
You (we) need / One (society) needs seriously
independent tribunals/committees/courts where conduct is reviewed by people
from other areas of expertise. I have given much thought to this in the area of
business, but the recommendation could certainly be adapted to the academic
sphere. Hence finance people could have their conduct reviewed by people from
outside areas such as mathematics, the humanities, social sciences and even
economics. Those who have failed morally would be excluded for a while, or even
for life, from practising as financial experts.
It goes without saying that teaching (e.g. at undergraduate level) must be
separated from research, as has indeed been suggested in the comments. An
ability to teach well is quite different to an ability
to research, or even to manage. In any case, a lot of effort is wasted, and
damage done, by poor teaching. If teaching is well remunerated, then those with
the appropriate talents and drive should be able to subsidise their research
time by their teaching. Others might wish simply to pursue family and
friendship, which is also valuable.
The principle has to be that some exceptional individuals are promised several
years of reasonable income on the understanding that they are the sort of
people who will pursue lines of research they seriously believe in. These
should not be people driven by personal ambition: Wittgenstein wrote, rightly. that ambition is the death of thought.
That is, soundness of character is as important as technical competence.
This does not address the need for funds to finance the research itself; i.e.
the question of how to distribute any funds that are not earmarked for
salaries.
Citations must not all be counted alike. In the area of business ethics I have
criticised certain individuals harshly. This does not mean I believe these
individuals have had anything interesting to say. On the contrary: they are
charlatans. It is simply that charlatans, too, if they have once insinuated
themselves, must be confronted and exposed. In other cases, someone slightly
competent might become popular, and be mentioned everywhere, without their
meriting this attention, and here too there is a need for their shallowness to
be exposed.
Hence it must be possible for a citation to carry a negative value. (I once had
a paper turned down on the grounds that I had not cited the literature – in
this case, about professional ethics. I had read the literature and determined
it was useless. The subject was difficult and I held no grudge against the
standard commentators, and I did not see any point in explaining why their work
was useless. That was – is – evident to anyone reading them. My project was to
produce something much better: convincing, i.e. with the ring of truth.)
It remains the case, regrettably, that in the real world, decades later, people will accept a piece of paper (in this case a PhD) as
a qualification, and dismiss you as an imposter if you do not have the piece of
paper. It does not matter that those with the papers are obviously inferior,
whereas you can demonstrate de facto competence – you will always be at a
considerable disadvantage. Mostly you will not even be given a chance to prove yourself, however certain it is that you can prove yourself.
This is a matter of a cultural failure. Hence my recommendation is to complete
your qualification if you are close to achieving it. But do not even begin if
you are doubtful about its intrinsic value.
Once “qualified”, feel free to abandon the established career path, and be
ruthless in your criticism of conformity. Even be personal in your attacks,
despite this being unfashionable.
The point one commentator made about the investment of parents (or equivalent
persons) in one’s education is a valid and deeply serious one. There are times
in life when one must forgo authenticity for a while.
187. REPLY
16/10/2013
SCIENCEANDSKEPTICISM
I find it
interesting that this went viral for one major reason: nothing said in lines
1-7 has ever been hidden. Historians and philosophers of science have been
talking about this for decades. More recently, scientists like Lee Smolin and Ben Goldacre have
written about the faults in peer review and academia. Neil deGrasse
Tyson and Michael Mann have also talked about what happens when brave
scientists simply dare to address the big issues in a public forum. Carl Sagan
was literally denied membership to the USA’s national academy of the sciences
because many of his peers were vindictive about him taking sciences to the
masses (despite this, his publication record was on par with even the most
prestigious members of the academy. Look up Michael Shermer’s
presentation of it on YouTube if you are interested). Of course science is done
by people with big egos who are trying to get money. This is because it is
carries out by human beings. It is kind of shocking that you did not know this
beforehand.
However, my
gripe with this article is two folds.
The first is that it does not come to grips with the fact that academic and
research science, despite all of its imperfections, still delivers the goods.
Through government funding and grants via academia, NASA, the NIH, the CDC, and
the NSF (and their counterparts in Europe), the natural sciences and modern
engineering have harnessed the power of the atom, discovered the structure of
the quantum world, put a man on the moon, cured many diseases, mapped the human
genome, and corroborated the existence of the Quarks and the Higgs Boson. All
of this was done in around 100 years. All of this was possible (while at the
same time your 1-7 complaints being entirely real) because science is a
practice carried out by flawed humans and defined by a tension between
conservatism and revolutionary new ideas and breakthroughs. I am not going to
go on too much about this because there are already books and books about this
topic.
My second gripe
is that the idea that science should quickly turn around and be applicable is
not a good standard. This is because curiosity driven research can yield
dramatic, and unexpected, revolutions decades later. A good example of this is
the research into mathematics and physics at the beginning of the twentieth
century. Despite being seemingly esoteric at the time, this research yielded
the foundations for gps technology (which uses
relativity), medical equipment (fmri’s, x-ray,
microscopy, etc…), and the computing revolution (from
the chips to Turing’s logic). If one were to complain about this standard when
people like Einstein, von Neumann, and Godel were at
Princeton and Turing was working for the British government (and before with
Einstein and Planck working for the German academy), they could have quashed a
lot of profound and revolutionary ideas. Likewise, some pundits in my country
recently complained about the NSF pouring a good bit of money into snail
research, yet this is pivotal to the study of Schistosomiasis (which passes
itself around through snails and ravages the developing world).
I am not saying
the author disagrees with any of this, but it still needs to be pointed out.
188. REPLY
07/11/2013
FWC
This lengthening
thread has accumulated rich lode. It is interesting that, in 1989, the well respected evolutionary biologist, and iconoclast,
Michael Ghiselin published “Intellectual Compromise”
that covered the downward spiral of academia. (A pdf can be accessed on Library
Genesis)
Appended a review of the book in Bioscience (1990)
THE ECONOMY OF INTELLECT
Intellectual Compromise. Michael T. Ghiselin,
Paragon House, New York, 1989. 226 pp. $24.95 (ISBN 0-
674-30775-5 cloth).
The heart and soul of science is its rationality, its logic, its adherence to
reason. Scientists search for truth according to the rules of theory and
experiment. They are selfless and rational beings. But why do the strange codes
of scientific behavior exist?
Michael T. Ghiselin’s thesis is that scientists’
credos, including their self-proclaimed rationality, come from economic drives.
Ghiselin, a zoologist and evolutionary biologist,
defines economics broadly as “how the availability and utilization of resources
affect the organization and activities of organized beings” (p. 2). All life,
individual as well as social, scientific as well as natural, is the product of
competition for resources. The “real subject matter [of economics] is resources
of every kind. Scarcity and competition affect all organisms everywhere,
whether social or not. . . . How much time we allocate to love or to art is just as much an economic problem as how much we allocate
to work or rest. . . . A scholar’s life is no exception” (p.
3-4).
In the world of science and theories, the resources are grants and
professorships. Self-interested economics shapes how scientists act and the
choices they make as they compete for the fruits and berries of funding and
reputation. How should scientists allot their resources? Time of course is the
most important resource.
In the cause of economic self-interest, spending time teaching is useful
because it complements research. Paperwork, on the other hand, is not. Students
are useful because they double as contemporary and future colleagues.
Scientists also have personal re-sources: lab equipment, knowledge, skills,
students, colleagues, and sponsors. They have invested in this capital over the
course of their careers. Redirecting these resources to a new line of research
increases risk; retool-ing is prohibitively
expensive. This, Ghiselin argues, is the economic
reason for conservatism among older scientists.
Scientists, like intellectual stickle-backs, exhibit strong territorial behavior. An economic balance is struck in staking out
intellectual territory: it should be as big as possible to maximize
idea-hunting range, but not so big that you cannot patrol and defend it.
Competition between schools of thought is economic: “academics will try to
destroy those branches of learning that reduce their own prosperity, and
preserve those from which they derive a benefit” (p. 184).
Science balances, in an economic sense, low return but surer investment in
short-term applied (“trivial”) re-search against high-risk but higher-payoff
basic (“difficult”) research. Successful scientists are successful investors:
“bold but not rash, cautious but not timid.”
At the same time, researchers, like good consumers, go where the money is:
“Now, there is nothing wrong with doing applied research, or work-ing on problems that society wants solved, so long as one
really wants to solve those problems and those problems really are soluble. But
a scientist who works on problems he knows cannot be solved, simply because
money is available for working on them, may reasonably be compared to a
prostitute. The problem is not simply that certain people opt for that way of
earning a living in a free-enterprise economy out of mere cupidity. Rather, the
state of the economy is such that many have no realistic alternative” (p. 200).
The same cost-benefit approach guides scientists’ decisions about when to
release results of research in progress. Publishing is an issue of diminishing
returns: it is inefficient to verify results to the nth degree, but risky to
publish in haste. Recognizing this difficulty quandary, the scientific
community has developed a diverse portfolio of communications, which carry
different degrees of risk: Nature papers (the equivalent of AA-rated bonds),
letters (accessible to the com-mon investor), and conference presentations
(junk bonds).
Science is a market, where scientific entrepreneurs produce, consume, and
market ideas. The ethos of priority has an economic fount, akin to pat-ents: establishing priority by publish-ing
gives a scientist rights to an idea, but also encourages him or her to get the
idea out for others to build on. Reputation has economic value. Ghiselin spends a chapter on au-thority,
a pet peeve. Authority takes the place of the brand name. Because generic is
usually cheaper, and what is sold in Sharper Image or Tiffany’s is usually of
the best quality, name be-comes a quick and easy way to pre-judge worth. The
smart shopper doesn’t price everything every time. If one wants quality, it is
most efficient to assume that the best quality is found in the well-known
stores. This assumption may be slightly wrong now and then, and seriously wrong
once or twice, but in the long haul it seems to work. And there is enough
double-checking to keep the relation-ship between price and quality, or
reputation and competence, fairly honest. The imprimatur of Elite Private
University goes a long way toward establishing a researcher’s reputation. A
theme of Ghiselin’s is that academia corrupts the
free enterprise of science. “The tendency for the values of the academic life to
override those of the scholarly life is one reason why bad scholarship drives
out good” (p. 5), and “It is not research that keeps teachers out of the
classroom, it is paperwork. ..Academia has usurped
…scholarship” (p. 68).
Just how generally applicable is the seemingly ubiquitous paradigm of evolution
and resource competition? Ghiselin generously finds
applications of evolutionary economics in psychology, law, economics, and
cultural development, as well as in university science. What is interesting is that
so many different theories-sociology, psychology, organizational behavior, and economics-can credibly be brought to bear on
the behavior of those strange creatures called
scientists.
Ghiselin ends up advocating a sort of bioholistic approach to understanding science. Although he
phrases his discussion in thoroughly economic jargon, the rules of scientific behavior are not too different from those derived from sociobiology, psychology, or epistemology. Scientists are
opportunists just like anyone else. They want maximal return on their effort,
time, and knowledge. The recipe for understanding science might read: blend
economics into sociobiology (which already has a
healthy dose of struggle for resources), toss in some psychology (because we
are dealing with humans, not honeybees), and add a dash of rationalism (because
the coin of the scientific realm is truth, not reproduction).
The best part of the book is the first two chapters, where Ghiselin
lays out his intellectual strategy. The rest of the book rambles, albeit
interestingly. Ghiselin is a good idea person, but
disorganized and shallow when it comes to analysis. The writing flows smoothly
but is joyless. He calls his book criticism rather than theory, and that
certainly is true.
One unpleasant though minor aspect is the scattering of petty digs at those who
have apparently at one time or another offended Ghiselin:
Paul Feyerabend, Thomas Kuhn, students clamoring for recommendations, picky and unconstructive
reviewers, school textbooks, those who expect schools to be babysitters, book
editors, university administrators (“intellectual Edsels”),
textbooks, citation analysis (a “witches’ brew”), grantsmanship,
trendy science, and the convention-bound establishment in general. (Ghiselin writes from outside the establishment, from the
museum world of the California Academy of Sciences.) Although most of the
criticisms are not wholly unjustified, they are needlessly unmannered and come
across as bitter grudges rather than thoughtful commentary.
But overall, Intellectual Compromise is stimulating and controversial in the
best MacArthur-funded tradition. It lays out intellectual paths for others to
follow with more substantive and mundane research. Read this book. Ghiselin is a libertarian of science, antiauthoritarian, a
self-aggrandizing elitist, and a defender of science. Intellectual Compromise
may make you self-righteously indignant, but it should also spur thought on why
you, your colleagues, and universities do what they do.
LISA C. HEINZ Office of Technology Assessment US Congress Washington, DC 2051
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189. REPLY
09/11/2013
MAITLAND
An interesting topic. Unfortunate the author ultimately did not complete
the degree. But if that wasn’t their personal goal, and they became
fundamentally disillusioned with the particular operation in which they found themself, good on them for making the break. Academia
“traps” many (if not most) in careers which severely limit their employment
prospects outside the sector. That’s especially true in some of the sciences,
particularly given the proliferation of extraordinarily narrow
sub-sub-specialities supported essentially only within an academic
operation…but increasingly less supported financially or in terms of
appreciation within the sector itself. That can lead to a type of internal
desperation and fear that might contribute to the overall stress vibe of
academia one often encounters.
Academia is a
different “world”, and it’s operations are deeply
impacted by its self assessment mechanisms, self perception, finance and human resources. While those
are generally common to most operations, academic or not, the “higher
education” “ivory tower”, “benefit of mankind” ethos and marketing puts
self-induced pressure that perversely warps its administration. When that
occurs within a system with such Nobel goals, it’s not surprising it falls
short.
As someone who
has been a science academic research Professor and in the private sector (now
permanently in the latter with adjunct in former) I can certainly see where the
author is coming from. My experience (and opinion) is that the sector is in
slow decline due to the unattractiveness of the profession in terms of required
education and skills versus renumeration and workload.
Particularly compared to the private sector.
Additionally, in many countries, the “hard funded” support of institutions has
declined, at first precipitously, now gradually, or is variable to a degree
that it affects operations on an annual basis. That’s what’s expected in the
private sector, but is corrosive in essentially quasi-governmental operations.
Another aspect that I feel has sort of grown to become the stereotype about
which academics always complained is the growth of managerialism. That is, management
for management sake rather than to effectively control and run operations.
Academics always complained (loudly) about “administration” or “bureaucracy”
(who doesn’t generally?), but often overlook the need for administration
through being assaulted by steeply increasing amounts of record keeping and
operational paperwork. In the Internet age, every unit sees its individual
information collection as minimal, while the whole buries academics in
associated “paper”work. Another aspect of
managerialism in academia has been the astounding rate of uptake of management
jargon and nonsense speak. Virtually any term, no matter how vacuous-indeed,
the more vacuous but intellectual sounding the better-had become a substitute
for clear thinking and communications. Indeed, academic management has taken bullsh*t speak to its pinnacle. My
experience is that operations that go down that road corrode more broadly from
the inside, and it is symptomatic of a broader malaise.
And academics have to operate within such a management structure, Nobel goals
regarding advancing knowledge or not. “Leadership” is quantized and expected of
all, ignoring the most basic tenants of management-that there are leaders and
those whose productivity is optimal when not focussed on leading. There is also
a more basic and intractable problem that those who become academic managers in
many fields are most often not trained or intrinsic managers in the broader
sense. However, over the past 30 years, academia has required greater degrees
of management in more administrative areas, increasingly with an often vague,
managerialism-focussed structure.
With funding
declining per scientist (both due to reduced per
-capita inflation-linked spending and an astounding growth in postgraduate
completions, institutes and academics), comparatelely
poor salaries per year degree of education and/or experience and the above
managerialism, even the most dedicated and forthright scientists become
disillusioned. It’s just unfortunate that the positive aspects of academia and
scholarship are increasingly trapped and constrained within such structures.
Some of the aspects have always been there. Any history of science illustrates
this. But newer structures, particularly around funding and management have
negatively impacted overall operations to a much greater degree.
Regarding the
vicissitudes of personalities, I’ve found more tolerance for bad personality
and/or management types in public or quasi-public operations than private. That
may explain some of the authors observations. But one
certainly encounters that in many sectors. However, in the private sector, bad
personal behaviors are less likely to result in
advancement or employmeny longevity.
The above isn’t
meant to justify the factors that have led to the authors
disillusionment with science within the academic setting. I agree with all of
their points to varying degrees. And they are certainly all valid observations.
I’ve tried to present some factors I believe have influenced the current state
of play in the industry.
But the bottom
line is that, for the renumeration -v- workload, if
the sector additionally leads to a more holistic disillusionment, you certainly
made an understandable decision.
Best of success in your new endeavours.
190. REPLY
18/11/2013
YUAN
I am a PHd like the author. I have experienced all situations he
found. Under this kind of environment, we can not
change anything but adapt it. What we should do is to learn more and more
useful knowledge as possible as we can. As the author said
“nothing can take away the knowledge that I’ve gained “.
Best wishes for
all PHds.
191.REPLY
19/11/2013
BO THIDÉ
A system run by mediocre, politically
correct people who think that real science and new breakthrough discoveries can
be administered and managed in terms of Gantt charts, ESFRI lists, and
five-year plans that guarantee “deliverables”, and where creative people who
dare to sacrify bibliometric tallies in favour of
spending time thinking out of the box are being ostracised, ripped off of their
means and their dignity, is doomed to die. Are we witnessing this death now? Or
is something even more dangerous going on?
192. REPLY
19/11/2013
ERIC
OK – I’ll engage
in this discussion. I have talked about this with many people. Right now, any
tenured faculty member virtually anywhere in the world can spend their time
more or less as they see fit. If I wanted to think deeply about something for
five years before putting pen to paper, and offered no publications as proof,
then all that would happen is (maybe not even) my “merit” increment would slip,
costing me perhaps 2 or 3 k$ in salary. I argue that academics are presently in
a better position to think deeply than at any other time in human history……
What academics fret about are the “trappings”. What one loses by not publishing
is not salary, but rather travel money, money for
laptops, etc. What we write grants for in most cases is
travel money (apologies to soft money US researchers who have to write grants
to pay their own salaries… I’m talking about tenured profs
in most if not all other countries). Think about Einstein…. he did his best
work while a patent clerk in Bern. Hardly lavish support by the system by
today’s standards…. I feel very bad for the guy who quit his PhD. I agree with
some of his points, but his quitting hurt him and no one else. The first thing
that comes to mind for me is the question of whether or not he was actually
close to being completed (I was “two months from graduating” for 18 months). By
quitting, all he has done is denied himself a voice that could make things
better…. I think the reality, though, is that most of us chase trappings while
we ignore the incredible freedom that our position affords us.
193. REPLY
21/11/2013
SOLUTION
What researchers
need is freedom of choice and thought, and other avenues to express creativity,
like engineering. Apply what you theorize.
194. REPLY
22/11/2013
FISH
I’m going to
take the phD for pragmatic reasons but I must express
that over the last 3 years I have accumulated such “hatred” towards my
colleagues unethical behaviour that I will fill no “pride” in having been
“officially recognized” by them.
Okay, I’m exagerating a little bit. Some of them are okay.
The practice
that bothers me the most is not actually reading each other’s articles. For
example, I know that one of my examiners didn’t read the proof, because there
was a fairly serious error in the proof pointed out by the other examiner
(which I was able to fix).
As a
mathematician I only ever use a result unless I have read and understood the
proof. This does not seem to apply to some of my colleagues who will happily
build upon unverified results. Mathematics doesn’t work that way. It has to
have have solid foundations.
If the examiner
didn’t understand the proof he could have asked me to explain it to him. Probably a pride issue.
Also, I have my
own personal judgment, based on having read people’s papers on whose a unbelievably awesome,
whose exellent, whose great and whose okay. There are
okay people who are ranked higher and earning more money than the excellent
people.
The system
rewards those who publish a large number of short papers, on obscure subjects,
with multiple authors always using the same handful of techniques. These papers
are not of the same value as a long paper which introduces new concepts and
unifies a large number of previously known results into a single context.
That’s my 2
cents
195. REPLY
24/11/2013
D
The world is not
a perfect place and most of the comments in this contribution may well apply to
a wide variety of scenarios even outside of the academic world.
But I heavily
judge the fact that the writer abandoned his Ph.D. just months shy of
completion. Being a Ph.D. student may well be an underpaid job, but is still a
job. You’re getting paid (hopefully) for doing said job; if you’re unfortunate,
even if it doesn’t align with your moral/ethical/whatever compass.
Regardless of
moral and ethical observations, by abandoning your Ph.D. at such a crucial
moment you are damaging yourself, your supervisor, your colleagues and your
institution, as it is the epitome of irresponsibility.
I wouldn’t rely
on someone that takes 4 years (!) to make a decission
like this without extenuating circumstances.
196. REPLY
02/12/2013
AK
@D,
I agree it does seem odd to leave at that point in time. What also strikes me
as odd is that the student called the experience “enjoyable and hard.”
I wish my PhD
experience had been enjoyable and hard. Instead it was dysfunctional,
hypocritical, humiliating, and not at all what a person who graduated at the
top of their master’s class expected as the next level of education. It’s
largely a farce.
What I would
call the epitome of irresponsibility is the fact that the faculty do not do
their jobs – which is teaching students and mentoring them and guiding them so
that they, in turn, can achieve their best and, in turn, the institution gains
some respectability.
Instead of
getting excited about testing an original theory that I was excited about or
any new ideas, I watched my supervisor tweak data (data that he told me exactly
how to collect for months and didn’t bother to do a pilot test on it after a
few weeks) so that something useful for publication appeared instead of
admitting that the actual data was non-significant and meaningless.
I could write a
letter about my experiences that makes the letter on this blog look like a love
letter. I quit after two heartbreaking years of being
diminished, neglected, and treated like one in a herd of cattle with the
intelligence of a calf.
I expressed my
disappointments loudly and frequently. Whenever I told them I wanted to leave
(to go somewhere else more professional) they always talked me out of it: “It
gets better!” “No no no,
don’t quit.” “Take some time off.” “Take a year off.” So I stayed hoping things
would get better. But of course they didn’t. We are just statistics. I finally
left after two years after realizing I’d never achieve MY goals there – only
their goals.
I don’t believe
the person who wrote this letter is damaging the institution, the supervisor,
their colleagues because they are the ones damaging the state of education by
having excuses for EVERYTHING. This is merely one kind of outcome for
narrow-mindedness. And, only the author knows whether or not he/she damaged
themselves.
I, for one,
deeply disappointed to not be a phd
student at the moment, am proud of leaving and have gotten cheers from many in
my field for not putting up with the “irresponsibility.” Now that I’m extremely
content in the working world doing what I love (that my master’s prepared me
well for), I have to think whether or not to go back to a school that may be
more professional and open-minded, and finish working on the theory I had
wanted to. Or whether to just do research independently.
I had sent my
supervisor a link to a blog where the author stated:
“it’s all summed up nicely in a bromide a friend told me when
I started my PhD: You go into your PhD trying to maximize greatness, and come
out trying to minimize humiliation.” He said, “Yup, that just about sums it
up.”
Well,
congratulations to you and your university! – you
managed to humiliate me in a mere 24 months; I didn’t even need a full four years!
197. REPLY
04/12/2013
NORKUAT
I think Science
doesn’t need new Phds that don´t breeze through
graduate school.
198. REPLY
06/12/2013
AL
I have just
finished my PhD. I had completely different experience. Both of my supervisors
have tenure and probably have gotten bored by publishing usual papers. So we
started exploring a new field (in which my supervisors have very little
experience), and have discovered quite a few totally unexpected things along
the way. The discoveries don’t appear to have any direct applicability to
today’s business world, nor do they change any fundamental paradigms, but it’s
still a heap of new, counterintuitive and amazing stuff. The only complaint I
may have about my supervisors is that they don’t seem to care about publishing,
so I have 5 papers waiting to be proof-read. However my supervisors have always
been super supportive in trying to unravel the truth and were basically
learning together with me along the way.
On the negative
side, now I realise that this may have been a great jolly ride both for me and
my supervisors, but unfortunately it is likely coming to an end. My supervisors
are tenured and don’t have to worry, but I barely have any citations and have
few papers due to the exploratory and out-of-hot-topics nature of my PhD. I am
fearful about my future career, since I am unlikely to be successful in
academia. I am also not sure how to approach getting a job outside of academia
at this point. So I can fully relate with the author of this letter that the
academic system does not encourage what I did in my PhD. Nevertheless I still
enjoyed it.
199. REPLY
06/12/2013
SUSAN
Having worked in
academic research admin for years (after realizing the costs of pursuing a PhD
were far greater than the benefits of spending 5 years crunching someone else’s
numbers), I’ve watched how the system rots people to their cores. MDs and PhDs who start out with the best intentions, wanting to
help, wanting to further understanding, loving research; become Machiavellian,
omnipotent monsters over time. Operations within these organizations are often
a joke because of the high turn-over and relative inexperience of those charged
with running labs and departments. Those without advanced degrees, regardless
of their expertise, are treated as dispensable and inferior. Working in
academia has been a huge disappointment to me. As a side note, much has be
written lately about why girls don’t pursue careers in science – the life just
isn’t attractive to anyone with resources and a working emotional intelligence.
200. REPLY
07/12/2013
FEUDRENAIS
Well, now that this letter has
generated close to 200 comments and has been up for almost 3 months, I’ve
decided to take some time to reply to all the comments that people have posted
here (200, though a lot, is still doable). Hopefully, this will provide some
insight and maybe even give some sort of conclusion to the discussion generated
here. I would also like to use this chance to kill two birds in one stone and
defend myself against some of the criticisms that this has generated, as well
as to clarify some things.
I am going to reply to all of the
comments posted here one by one, but a couple of other things before I do.
First, here’s the plug for the Facebook group (“Just Science”) that has formed
as a reply to this letter:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/586805534699776/
It’s still alive
and well, with almost 200 members, and appears to be organizing
projects/teamwork to address some of the issues in academia. Any help is
welcome. Even if you don’t agree with my letter, I would recommend checking it
out and giving your opinion because, you know, it’s good to be open-minded and
try to understand how people with different opinions think, even when those
opinions are diametrically opposed to your own.
Second, as there
were multiple themes that appeared again and again in the comments, I’ve
decided to write some general comments of my own so as to handle these points en masse. This will allow me to shortcut a lot of my
personal replies, thus letting me simply say, for example, “see
General Comment A”.
So, what are my
general comments?
General Comment
A: On Getting the PhD and Changing the System from the Inside
This is by far
the most popular theme, with many people telling me in their comments that if I
really want to improve the system, I should stay in it, advance in it, and use
my reputation/credentials to fix it from the inside. I’m going to argue against
this twice – first from a general, abstract point of view and then from how it
relates to me personally.
For the general case, I am reminded of a quote I like from Nietzsche:
“He who fights
too long against dragons becomes a dragon himself; and if you gaze too long
into the abyss, the abyss will gaze into you.”
Of course, this
is not an absolute truth, but it makes a point that I personally find very
true, i.e., that your environment rubs off on you, and that it rubs off more
the longer you stay in it. Trying to “change/fight the system from the inside”
is a noble endeavor and I don’t criticize the
intentions of the people who do, but it is inevitable that you cannot continue
to fight a system at full efficiency while it continually surrounds you and
tries to fit you into its workings. Believing in the wisdom of compromise, you
will find yourself doing things that you don’t agree with while telling
yourself that it’s only temporary, or that it is necessary until you get into
the position to “really change things”. But while such a position may be slow
in its apparition, the concessions you make may turn into habits, complacency,
and eventually, as your youthful passion dies out, complete acceptance. These
are the potential drawbacks that I see from staying in a system you don’t like
and trying to change it from the inside. In the general case.
Now, for me personally. The first thing I need to do here is
to state some assumptions and definitions. I will define “developed academia”
and “non-developed academia”, which clearly span all of academia because
they’re complementary. I will define “developed academia” as academia where
ample resources are dedicated to scientific pursuits, and “non-developed
academia” as academia where such resources are not allocated. As a rough
approximation, I will assume that developed countries have “developed academia”
and developing countries have “non-developed academia” – this is, in most
cases, true. My letter was clearly intended as a criticism of “developed
academia”, as “non-developed academia” has not even reached the level where
these criticisms can be applied (as confirmed by some of the comments on my
letter that were posted in “non-developed academia” regions like Russia or
ex-Yugoslavia, which I read with great interest).
I say this
because about three years ago I decided that I would dedicate my life to
helping improve “non-developed academia” by using the training I received in
“developed academia”. This is something I am truly passionate about and thus am
willing to spend my full time doing – I want to teach and train potential
scientists in places where the kids want to work hard but don’t have the
resources or the qualified teachers. From personal experience, I believe this
to be both extremely rewarding and, more theoretically, I believe it to be
extremely necessary given the brain drain that is currently draining
“non-developed academia” of its talent (in some sense, I want to try and
contribute to reversing or nullifying the brain drain). If one day, though I
doubt it likely in my lifetime, “non-developed academia” disappears from this
world and all academia becomes “developed”, with qualified
professionals/teachers everywhere, enough money for equipment/salaries in every
country, and no brain drain to take talent out of one place and to pump it into
another, then at that time and only at that time would I seriously consider
working on improving “developed academia”, as it would now be the only academia
in existence.
All that I say
in order to clarify this one point: it makes no sense for me to stay inside a
system that I never intended to spend my life improving. My decision to reject
my PhD, though it may seem incomprehensible to some people, was purely
pragmatic, since (a) I would not need it so much in “non-developed academia”,
my knowledge and current qualifications being enough to suffice, and (b) by
rejecting it in the manner I did I felt the potential to send a powerful
message that could benefit “developed academia”, which, though not my main
focus, is still something I care deeply about. I resigned in hopes of doing
something useful – I wanted my peers to try to understand that a PhD was not as
important as they believed it to be, that it’s not a flaw for them to be more
courageous and to disagree with their superiors when they see things in the
system that they don’t like, and that the goal should not be the degree but the
knowledge and the skills gained. I believe this to be important because a young
person only has so much time before they fit into a niche and stay in it, and
it is absolutely vital that we fit into niches that we ourselves choose and
that we ourselves believe to be worthwhile, and not into those that are forced
on us by whatever career path we choose. In short, I wanted to demonstrate that
it’s okay to go against the flow, and that you can be just as successful, or
even more so, if you do. Well, I suppose the pressure is on me to prove that
last statement now, and I’ve got the rest of my life
to do it
General Comment
B: On the World Being Imperfect
A lot of people
have also written rebuttals saying that the world is imperfect, and that I am
naïve in believing that academia – a human activity – should somehow be exempt
from this. To be clear, I do not believe this and I don’t recall ever saying so
in my letter. My reply to the people who accuse me of having “unrealistic
expectations” of academia or of being naïve is to accuse them of reasoning in
Boolean logic. Yes, 0s and 1s. As I understand from the comments that have
stated this point of view:
1 = Perfect
academia, which is impossible
0 = Imperfect academia, which we must accept because 1 is impossible
… by which logic I am naïve because I am telling people that
we are guilty for not having 1.
Except that I’m
not. For me, 1 is perfect academia, while 0 is absolutely corrupt academia, and
then one has all the non-integers in between. I said in the beginning of my
letter that I no longer believed academia to be bringing a positive benefit to
society, or equivalently, that I believed it to be closer to 0 than to 1 (0.45,
let’s say). I certainly did not accuse it of failing for not being at 1, since
that’s impossible. In fact, if it were greater than 0.5, I’d probably be happy
and wouldn’t have written such a letter in the first place.
So, saying that
“the world isn’t perfect” reads to me like a lame excuse formed by Boolean
logic, and only encourages irresponsibility and gives the carte blanche for us
to go all the way to 0 (since, you know, 1 is impossible). The real thing is
much more complex than that, and we have to decide, each one for ourselves,
where on that spectrum between 0 and 1 we think we stand and how low are we
willing to go before it becomes unacceptable for each of us personally. My
numbers, again, are 0.45 and 0.5.
General Comment
C: On Actually Reading my Letter
Okay… I
understand that the letter was very long, and I’m sorry. I cannot expect
everyone to have read every sentence in detail, but I would at least hope that
you read and understand everything before deciding to comment or to pass
judgment. There were comments that completely seemed to ignore some parts of
the letter, or told me that I did or felt certain things that I explicitly said
I never did.
General Comment
D: On Interpolating and Extrapolating
A fair number of
people also made certain assumptions about me that came out of the blue (e.g.,
“he did not like his topic”, “he had trouble with his advisors”, “he just wrote
this to vent his personal frustrations”, “he was failing his PhD and therefore
quit, pretending that he did it in protest of the system”). I take issue with
those people who make such statements with amazing certainty, as if they knew
me personally and knew exactly what I was thinking. Please don’t jump to such
conclusions without more information. You’re only obfuscating the discussion.
General Comment
E: On Everything in the Letter Being True or Not
This one is a
can of worms. I knew when I wrote this letter that not all of its problems
would be relevant to every branch of academia, but I felt that the points I
limited myself to would be general enough to reach a lot of people and, judging
by the replies, I wasn’t wrong. Is this letter “truth”? No. Are the reactions
to it a sign of truth? Most certainly.
To be fair to myself, I never stated that “this is how it is”. The title was
not “8 Facts Academia Doesn’t Want You to Know”. I used words like “probably”,
“seems”, and “appears” sufficiently many times to ensure that I was not
proclaiming facts but observations. The goal of the letter was to provoke
discussion and to spark thinking – it was not intended to be a report (to those
who pick fault with it for lacking citations, foolproof
arguments, and whatnot).
General Comment
F: On Rejecting the Letter Point-by-Point
I’m sorry, but
if you go through all of my 8 observations and only provide counter
examples/arguments without giving real concessions, then the only thing you’re
proving is how passionate you are about defending the system being criticized.
Another quote I like (by Aristotle this time): “It is the mark of an educated
mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it”. To go
point-by-point and reject everything reads like an in-denial or defensive mind
to me.
All right. I think that that’s it for my general remarks. Now, for
the individual replies in chronological order (though many of you may not come
back to check this, but oh well):
@Jan de Ruiter: Thank you. Although, see General Comment A, as I’m
not leaving academia.
@Bill Skaggs: I didn’t know we had met. See General Comment D.
@carl: I find myself largely agreeing with you.
@Glenn: Other people have responded to you already and I mostly agree with
them. But see General Comments B, C, D, F.
@Andy: As said in an earlier comment, I am in optimization.
@Terry A. Davis: I wouldn’t put it so simply, but I agree wholeheartedly with
“so much wasted potential”.
@Sandy: In complete agreement.
@Jacob: Mostly in agreement. More labor laws would
likely be a good thing.
@Michael Toomim: You are more extreme than me! Good
luck to the both of us, I guess.
@Plain Average Mind: Flip over the table?
@Martin: Might be a lost cause.
@Alfred Charles: Regarding MOOCs, I’m not sure if they will really do us a favor or simply make things worse. Sometimes efficiency
comes at a very high price, but this is a different (and long) discussion.
@Wakjob: No comment.
@Chad: In your case, I would imagine an even stronger moral/ethical conflict.
In my field, a lot of applications are still relatively abstract and so it’s
easy to dissociate yourself from them. But in medicine…
@Pau Fernández: You’re welcome.
@mkb: In agreement.
@Rob: Well, we met and discussed in person, so I’ve no more to add here
@ResearchNewbie: The arguments were not intended to
be new, and I would disagree with you regarding how detrimental the problems
are, particularly because of the derivative (i.e., they’re only getting worse).
Was it better before? Well, read some papers from 1960 and compare them to what
is published now. Academia wasn’t so saturated many decades ago, and there was
less pressure to output things. You can tell the difference. For your other
comments, see General Comment B.
@NameName: Mostly in agreement.
@Adria: The only problem with any position that is intended to allow a
researcher complete freedom is that researchers who want that freedom to do
nothing (instead of trying to actually pursue hard research) will target them
as well, and it may be hard to tell the difference, or to even evaluate them.
@Raphael: General Comment D.
@Selina: I’m very sorry if this has been your experience.
@Boudah Talenka: Merci mille fois pour la traduction, mais il manque une
ou deux choses
@Lee Smolin: General Comment A.
@Anon: Not much I feel like adding here.
@Bojana: I’m glad you liked the letter.
@Jay: No comment.
@Luca Benazzi: No comment, as this was intended for
Lee.
@Kyle Gustafson: I don’t accept any argument that points a finger at another
group and says “look, it’s even worse there, so why are we complaining?”, as
any such argument is unbounded – i.e., you can loop it to justify just about
anything. Also, the letter was not anonymous – Pascal simply took my name off
for the reasons he stated in the preamble. Otherwise, see General Comment B.
@Masha: General Comment A.
@Anon: Not sure if I agree with you. Certain parts of academia should
inevitably be treated as a business, because it is the most efficient way and
makes sense. However, adopting certain business-esque
tactics or mentalities that go counter to honest research is where I think
science starts going corrupt.
@Dave Fernig: General Comment D. Regarding
the times changing… well, I hope you’re right.
@Chris Habeck: I agree that the problems are very
complex. However, regarding your specific points… (1) I do not believe that
saying that government funds can/are used in more destructive ways than
academic research is comforting or justifies anything; (2) yes, education is
good, but isn’t this more related to teaching rather than research?; (3) are
these advances sufficiently large to justify the costs?; (4) is this
stimulation of the economy at large really substantial?
@Ashutosh GUPTA: I’m sorry that you found my analysis
weak. I’ll refer you to General Comment E, and remind you that this letter was
an e-mail and not a serious publication. It was intended to spark discussion.
See also General Comment A.
@Anon: I don’t disagree with you, but I wouldn’t be that extreme. Staying
inside the system is a valid approach – it just shouldn’t be viewed as the only
valid approach.
@Filip Vercruysse: Very good words.
@Stephen J. Crothers: I am not Pascal, and Pascal is not me (as he made clear
in the beginning of the post). I would actually not be as negative as you are
towards academia, but I do like your final paragraph.
@There is no spoon…: I don’t agree with your first two suggestions, as simply
sacking people seems a bit authoritarian and is unlikely to be effective in the
long term. For the third point, I don’t like the idea of reducing the number of
students taught (as this limits education). I do agree with the fourth and
fifth points, though.
@Helena: Oddly enough, I think that I would still recommend people to do a PhD,
because it’s a great opportunity to learn and to see the good sides of the academic
world that you wouldn’t see otherwise.
@NameName: I find your points quite valid. From the
economic regulation point of view, people in academia do put up with some
pretty ridiculous stuff.
@ex-grad: For you, sir, I can only give General Comments A and B. Pessimize much?
@Le Dude: General Comment D.
@Life isn’t fair: Our e-mail exchanges were a bit better than the anonymous
a-hole comment you posted here. For this comment in particular, I can only
point you to General Comments B, D, and F (the latter in reply to your blog
post).
@Juliette: I think we’ve corresponded sufficiently that I don’t need to post a
reply here
@Grant: I agree with you.
@Michael: General Comments B and D.
@UChicago grad: No disagreements here.
@Big Fan: I like your marathon analogy. Thank you, as well, for being one of
the few posters who clearly understood me and my ideals.
@H. C.: It wouldn’t surprise me if you simply weren’t allowed to quit your PhD
in the Netherlands without returning all of the salary that you were paid over
the 4-5 years spent working for it. At least, this seems to be the case in many
places (not at EPFL, thankfully).
@Pera Detlic: Great
comment. This really touches on a pet peeve of mine – putting names on the
paper of people who do almost nothing for the paper.
@K. B.: I guess I’m glad that I didn’t go to study in the Netherlands…
@Le Dude: Very good post. I certainly was not aiming for any such complex
analysis with my letter, and you’ve added a lot good food for thought.
@PhdCandidate1: I wasn’t going for full rigor with my letter (General Comment
E), and like to think that I’m allowed to put forth my own hypothesis on why
people behave a certain way. As the vast majority of our adult behaviors seem to be rooted in our childhood experiences,
regardless how much we fight to overcome or evolve out of them, I believe that
there is some truth to my theory. Of course, what you say also makes sense
(though I don’t find your first point as convincing as the second).
@Shankha: Glad I was able to be of service.
@Sascha: I read a part of this and it really is quite
similar in a number of places (although he’s in astrophysics, which is quite
removed from what I do).
@BBQ: Thank you very much for this extremely insightful post. I only make
reference to General Comment A.
@Stephen J. Crothers: Without knowing either you or the other guy, I ultimately
cannot judge whom to believe, but your point is a good one – it’s difficult to
avoid hypocrisy when you yourself are challenged directly.
@Empathetic PhD: In general agreement.
@ronald: Thank you for the
link.
@-: I don’t know if there is anyone “blaming it on academia”. On the whole, I
find your post very political and even a bit extreme, though I agree with parts
of it.
@barbecue: Thank you for the comment. Unfortunately, it sounds like many
professors who recognize these problems hope that the young generation will fix
them, and so I like your comment for at least extending that burden to the more
capable and older generation.
@Researcher: I’m glad that you had a good experience. See, however, General
Comment D.
@villarejo: Check the Facebook group if you haven’t
already.
@Daniel: Yes.
@Ewan Cameron: Yes, judging by the different reactions, they appear quite
widespread. To the best of my knowledge, mathematics seems to be the only field
I’ve encountered that’s relatively removed from many of these issues, though certainly not completely and maybe not for long.
@Andreea: General Comment A.
@Michael: First, I don’t remember drawing any major conclusions. Second, I
don’t agree with you on this point. I think that a PhD student who actively
works on a given topic for two years while an advisor only manages it is
capable of understanding which problems are important, which are possible to
solve, and so forth. As Sandy pointed out earlier and as I can also confirm
partially, there are PIs/advisors who aren’t even aware of the literature in
their fields, from which I cannot see how they would be qualified to guide the
field’s development. Also, I don’t find it proper to use words like “wrong” and
“correct” in an open-ended discussion like this one.
@Cytopolis: Thank you for the references.
@Sociologist: General Comments B and D.
@beyond science: I guess this was answered in a later comment by vpynchon.
@BBQ: Nothing to add here.
@VsonicV:
@Sun Kwok: Pretty much, yes.
@Fernando: Academia compared to what is expected of academia. I also don’t see
why the letter is obligated to be objective. In any case, see General Comments
B and E.
@m1234: Regarding EPFL, I think that this depends. Not every lab expects you to
publish from the start (ours certainly doesn’t – at least, not yet). But I have
heard horror stories about other labs. I want to also add that life choices are
not limited to only academia and industry, and leaving one does not imply
entering the other, or vice versa.
@H: …?
@Sridhar: Thanks for the link.
@Kish: I’m glad you agree.
@Dende: Good post. Sorry you found the letter hard to
read. See also General Comments A and D.
@Erik P: In many ways, yes.
@Bubblewrap: There’s a lot in your analysis that I
would agree with.
@Vighnesh NV: Unfortunately, my current plans do not
involve India, but maybe some day. I’m glad you liked
the letter.
@Philippa: It’s true that the “immigrant labor” in
the PhD community is also contributing to the problems, since it is easier to
abuse PhD students who need to get through their PhD study for financial
reasons. I guess this is the brain drain’s influence with respect to the PhD
context.
@Shahrzad: Yes, a few people have made the analogy to
the “Emperor’s New Clothes”.
@amIhappy: Thank you for your post. I agree that
spending 3-5 years doubting your choices is no way to live.
@slehar: As an aside, your comment slightly reminds
me of what writer Mikhail Veller said once about
writers and the government, in that the only time writers should be grateful to
the government is when the government leaves them alone and doesn’t force them
into its messes. Otherwise, yes, of course there is a bright side in this all
for an academic, and yes there are certain freedoms that others in other
professions do not have and which we shouldn’t take for granted. Still, I find
that reasoning to be too self-oriented – the complaint is not that it is
impossible for a given scientist to make a good living these days and to enjoy
his/her work, but that the science that is being done is not contributing to
society in the way that we would like it to contribute.
@vpynchon: Thank you for this very insightful post.
We’ve already discussed it somewhat in private, and so I won’t post more here.
@Sam: Friendship accepted.
@RJ: Unfortunately, your complaints sound all too familiar.
@arun: Thank you for the recommendation.
@prometheus: Not all work
needs to be groundbreaking. My criticism was largely
that pursuing groundbreaking work does not appear to
be very much encouraged in today’s system.
@Tami: Yes, that makes sense. However, General Comment D.
@alex: Completely in agreement with your comment
regarding industry.
@mokhliss: Yes.
@Tamaghna: What you say is extremely reasonable and I
agree with pretty much all of it. At the same time, I feel like this is one of
those golden generalizations, in that we could say that EVERY major problem
that humanity encounters is essentially a supply-and-demand problem.
@D: Can’t really disagree.
@tommaso tufarelli: Glad
you liked it.
@Alan Wright: Indeed, I suppose that the letter has touched on all of those
things, as well.
@Peter Murray-Rust: I agree about the potential of the digital era, but I would
say that academia is now starting to exploit it in full force (via things like
MOOCs). For better or for worse, we’ll see.
@SI: I don’t like answering loaded questions nearly as much as you like asking
them. You seem, however, to be heavily insinuating that I somehow wasted public
money, which is not true. I was paid to do a job, which I believe I did very
well. Every worthwhile result that I obtained during my PhD I’ve either already
published or am publishing or will publish (even when EPFL no longer pays me
$4k/month to sit at my desk and do it). All of it is applicable and all is
open-access. I’ve also released open-source software, purely on my own
initiative, because I wanted to provide useful tools to the public and not just
academic papers. And, as you know, theses in our lab/school are generally copy-and-paste
jobs consisting of articles that we’ve already written or will write, and so I
don’t see what benefit there would be in my accepting another 6 months of
public funding to produce a redundant document in exchange for a piece of paper
that won’t really help me or others. On the contrary, *that* would seem like a
waste of public funding. See General Comment A, as well.
@Paul: General Comments C, D, and E. Also: the point of the letter is not to
stop people from pursuing a PhD.
@Christian Schmemann: There’s a lot in your post that
I recognize and agree with, but your conclusion left me speechless.
@Iftikhar qayum: General
Comments A, B, D, and E.
@DiffeoMorph: Hmm, interesting rebuttal. General Comments A and B. And no, my answer to the problem
is not to quit – I’m sorry that you interpreted it this way.
@DrJohnGalan: I think it would be good to know who
this man and his colleague were, and what the theory was.
@alessandra: Thanks for the
article.
@isomorphismes: General Comments B and D.
@w.w.wygart: Thank you for the press summary :-), as
well for the entry in your own blog (though I’m not sure about how I feel with
regard to my letter being compared to a suicide note). I find myself very much
in agreement with your analysis – “institution” and “originality” will, in many
cases, be mutually exclusive.
@AstroDoobie: Let’s hope that the number of these
passionate, hard-working people is on the rise, and that they are working on
the right things.
@EJ: Thank you for the reference.
@Lloyd: Thank you for the reference.
@Mike Haseler: See General Comment A as it touches on
the circumstances. However, while the problems described in the letter appear
standard, the personal circumstances (if this is what you mean) are probably
not in this particular case. No clue as to how you would cite the letter as it
is not an official document that I ever really released… Probably just citing
Pascal’s blog is the way to go.
@Piezen: What is to be done…? Excellent post, most of
which I found quite insightful.
@Mark: Your arguments are very pragmatic, but please see General Comment A. In
any case, I’m well past the point of no return at this point, and call me
stubborn, but I don’t regret any of it, and, knowing what I know, seriously
doubt that I will.
@Marco: There is also a Google Group called “justscience”
that keeps the debates and cuts out the social aspect of Facebook (though it’s
not as popular). However, in many ways Facebook isn’t that bad – certainly with
respect to raising awareness. To be clear though, my intention was never to
stay on Facebook and I tried several times to propose alternatives, such as
creating a dedicated website. There wasn’t a sufficiently overwhelming
approval/excitement and so it was never done. But hey, who knows what’ll happen
in the future. I agree that it would be nicer for people with power in academia
to join the discussion as well, although a few have, I think.
@alexandre: General Comment
A. If criticizing is so easy, then I expect you to go and criticize your
superiors the next time they do something you don’t like – openly and free from
anonymity.
@Lucas: BS in two years…? Crazy.
@Joel: I understand.
@Dom: Yes, academia does seem to be experiencing a bubble.
@Nick: Next time that I prepare to write an internal resignation letter, I will
ask myself if I should not send it to Nature instead.
@Prince: Thank you for the kudos.
@hlm: Thank you, again, for the reading list.
@Matt: In this case, it is *not* academia in Switzerland. Academia in
Switzerland is still relatively good in many aspects when compared to many
places (i.e., the States). Although it is changing…
@Still Stunned: Your observations are disturbingly familiar. Like I said in my
letter, I know that there are “good people” in the system (there always will
be), and I wish them the best of luck. See General Comment A.
@agfosterjr: As I have already told you before, EPFL
has very much turned into an English-speaking school already, with the position
of French secondary as the “social language”. In writing a letter to such an
institution, where almost everyone understands English but not everyone
understands French, it makes sense to write in English if you want the message
to be accessible to everyone.
@Pshaffer: In full agreement with you. Milking a
large project for papers for years to come is something that sounds hauntingly
familiar as well.
@agfosterjr: PJ does not admit authorship (quite the
contrary). Please read the preamble to the letter at the very top of the page.
@David Bailey: In agreement with your observations.
@JR: General Comments A and D.
@Piezen: Not much to add here.
@Lisa: I’m glad you liked the letter.
@Jack: Nothing to add.
@Strephon: General Comments A, B, C, and D.
@TJ Marin: General Comment A. Yes, the GSD metric needs a good refresher.
@Kay: General Comments A and C.
@Gene: Thank you for your comments, although for your third point, no, I had
quite a lot of freedom during my PhD – no projects were “dumped” on me and
there was never a “push came to shove” moment.
@rosst: General Comment B.
@Sebastien: I think you would benefit from reading all of my general comments.
@Fr.: Yes, absolutely.
@Kavi: Yes, I guess the fact that it went viral does
say something. However, viral alone is unfortunately not sufficient, as people
in academia who would deny the contents of this letter could easily use the
“ten thousand flies can’t be wrong” argument. Without the public at large
capable of evaluating academic research and its quality, we have a sort of
elitist system in place, which I guess goes back to Sagan’s quote: “We’ve arranged
a global civilization in which most crucial elements profoundly depend on
science and technology. We have also arranged things so that almost no one
understands science and technology.” If the public wanted to defund science
despite not understanding it, it would most likely lead to total disaster (a
largely imperfect academia would still be better). From that point of view, I
can understand why certain people in academia would have negative reactions to
this letter, although it still doesn’t justify simply nay-saying all of it.
@impressed: I doubt that it will start a movement. If it gets some people
thinking, then that already will make it a success
@Mark Hunter: I will leave this to you and Terry.
@Casper: I agree that it seems odd to be “offended” by this letter. Unless, of course, it hits really close to home… in a bad way.
@Chris Reeve: We probably are going in circles, but with any luck, the circles
are getting smaller and smaller and converging to a point. Thanks for the
reference.
@Piezen: Love the Colbert reference!
@Gary Deering: This comment almost reads like spam.
@Krishnan: I’ve been fortunate to not have had the luck of attending any
faculty meetings
@Ed: General Comment B.
@Dreamer: Good luck.
@wrong timing: General Comment A.
@Abdul Basit Ahmad: While I would expect people well
entrenched in academia (i.e., the professors) to defend it and for those who
aren’t (i.e, the students) to be more open to its
criticism, I feel like your conclusion was made before reading this letter or
its comments. A number of professors have agreed with the things in the letter,
while some students have criticized it. So, I would not say that the divide is
so clear, and am not sure what justifies your conclusion.
@Mohamamd H. Ansari: Thank you for your interesting
use of the “second law of thermodynamics”.
@Dan Singleton: Thank you for sharing your experience.
@nickchop: General Comment A.
@Former academic: Thank you for adding your perspective.
@i had one of those: A bit over the top, but thank
you for your post.
@Olivier: I’m not sure if I understood your comment.
@JongAm Park: Thank you.
@Will MOON: Thank you.
@Gary McDowell: Despite all of the negativity of the letter, I am an optimist
as well. Yes, the thing does seem to be international.
@Kim: You’re welcome.
@Lee: Thank you for commenting!
@Blasio: The ways may be obvious, but what’s not obvious is how to get people
to actually do these things.
@Egg Head: I don’t have much to add, but you bring up some interesting points.
Thanks.
@colonel: But is that the impression given to most people?
@rosa: Good luck with your
blog.
@Jaded: I agree with you. Good luck with your break and hopefully you’ll make
the decision that works out for you.
@Richard Ransom: A million thanks for this comment.
@Remi: I didn’t blame the entire field. If I blamed anyone, it’s that weak part
of human nature in all of us that creates and then accepts these problems,
which is something that we’ll have to overcome if we want these problems to be
solved. Regarding your other points, peer review is definitely a major problem,
and one that is being discussed a good deal in many circles. Regarding tenure,
I wouldn’t say “let’s get rid of tenure, period”, although I think that there
is more harm than good in the current tenure model.
@gotphdin2004thenquit: I think we’ve corresponded already, so I won’t add more
here.
@Jeni: Nope.
@mirka: General Comment A.
@Phil Goetz: Thank you for adding your list to my list, even if they don’t
always intersect.
@Unconventional: Feel free to join the Facebook group and propose these there
if you want more feedback.
@Paul Gregory: I agree with much of what you say, but how does one objectively
judge “character”? See also General Comment A.
@ScienceAndSkepticism: Truth is viral, perhaps.
Otherwise, see General Comments B and D. I’m sorry for writing something so
trivially obvious.
@FWC: Thanks for the reference.
@Maitland: Thank you for your very lucid analysis. I must say that I agree with
almost all of it.
@yuan: Thank you.
@Bo Thidé: Pretty accurate description, I fear
@Eric: General Comments A, B, and D.
@Solution: Don’t even get me started on the problems in engineering academia…
That’s where I’m from, you know.
@fish: I agree with your 2 cents.
@D: Thankfully, it doesn’t look like you’re the kind of person I’d ever go to
work for. General Comments A and B.
@AK: Thank you for your refreshing post. It does sound like I may have written
a love letter, huh?
@norkuat: ?
…
Phew! That
really took a long time, but I think that’s everyone who’s posted so far. A big
thanks to everyone – I really learned quite a lot from all of your comments!
201. REPLY
08/12/2013
ALFREDQG
@FeuDRenais:
Thank you for sharing your experience with us and I (a 4th-year PhD student) whole-heartedly
agree with almost every single line that you wrote, except one point: towards
the end of the letter you suggested that the academia is not truly needed by
society since most of the research won’t produce results that will eventually
benefit society at large or even be comprehensible to the general public. While
I agree that this is indeed a real problem (along with all the other problems
you discussed in the letter), it doesn’t necessarily forfeit the fact that we
need the academia (which has existed since ancient times) in order for
significant progress to be possible in the human society. It is true that the
number of “true academics”- those who care about scientific truths in a
curiosity-based, non-profit-driven way – is lower than it should be in today’s
Western academia. However, where else would you expect to find them? Granted
that research can exist in the industries as well, but there are things that
just can’t possibly be done in with commercial funding. For instance, what kind
of commercial company would be stupid enough to build something as “useless” as
the Large Hardron Collider? If we got rid of the
academia whole-sale just because it has problems, the long-term development of
our society would be seriously crippled since any intellectual pursuit not
associated with short-term profits/benefits could not receive sufficient
support.
The fact is that
despite the perceived “crisis” in today’s academia, conscientious researchers
with more scientific integrity than ego do still exist. However, I find it
alarming that many such people (e.g. you) are quitting the academia out of
sheer frustration that they are being out-competed by their less conscientious
peers. Your personal decision to quit the academia is absolutely
understandable, since I myself at one point considered that route as well.
However, I have come to realize that there is much more at stake here. If good
people all abandon ship, leaving the “wicked” behind, wouldn’t the ship sink
even faster? If, god forbid, the academic community should one day become
completely corrupt, then I truly fear for the future prospect of human
civilization. Therefore I have decided to stay in the academic world for as
long as possible and effect as much change as I am able to from inside the system.
Such efforts might eventually turn out to be futile, but someone has to be the
last line of defense in some way.
202. REPLY
09/12/2013
SIMON KRAMER
“How Academia Resembles a Drug Gang”
– a scientific study:
http://alexandreafonso.wordpress.com/2013/11/21/how-academia-resembles-a-drug-gang/
203. REPLY
14/12/2013
REALWORLD
Currently
studying for my maters as a mid career practitioner.
Can honestly say I’m only doing it because most companies / organisations
worldwide in my field ask for this at this point. The academic side is an
absolute joke. The library is full of phd
thesis and master dissertations that no one has looked at since they were
written. Today, I was told that there is an academic term called ‘ethnography’
which I must use to describe what I do everyday as
part of my work yet no one in my workplace has ever heard of this. Thankfully,
my main tutors are industry experienced people who still work but lecture part
time. The full time staff are mostly ‘Eternal’
Students’ who are 30+ and haven’t moved on from uni
years.
204. REPLY
15/12/2013
VEDA
An aspiring
scientist’s frustration – is quite a universal phenomenon and unfortunately so
is the day’s decline in scientific rigor in acdemics.
But why a ‘Resignation’ — unless on the count of the thesis
work is inconsequential.
Your
intellectual honesty on your professional predicament speaks for your acute
‘scientific temper’. Keep it up with
due interest in your presently pursued subject as well as all others around –
science-humanities and arts… You are sure to develop a very sharp and fast
grasping power .. and then
you can even get intuitive enough – enough to do away or get independent of the
– unwilling or insufficiently sincere academic resources around.
I – now in my
seventh decade – having unable to work through my Ph
D status in Sociology– later managed to
keep my ‘professional interet’ through self-study and
self-paid research works out in the field. and with my
adherence to the empirical facts and to the sequential and consequential truths
behind and before them – have managed to acquire enough social-scientific
confirmed knowledge – thereby maturing into a social-anthropologist !!
Withe due participation in the academic conferences and
public talks. And – the doctored professionals therein insist on
referring to me as Dr Veda – as they feel that theirs is less deservedly earned !!
SO KEEP UP THE
SPIRIT —– Ignore Instinct and Institutions and Tag on to Your Intuition – That
is the real ‘Sailing Ship’ . GOOD LUCK TOO !!!!!
205. REPLY
17/12/2013
AK
@Sascha – love you for the article you posted in this blog’s
comments (http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0310368)
– it’s an incredible piece of work and an inspiration. (I love arxiv too for access to it.)
206. REPLY
18/12/2013
LYNNE
Finish the PhD,
I had such strong deja vu reading the email, and I
know it is all true. The foolishness of putting the smartest brains into such
destructive competition is a dumb waste of human resources. But you can finish
and the drive a taxi if you want. One day you will be glad that in spite of it
all you didn’t quit.
207. REPLY
13/01/2014
TEODOR CIOACA
Someone already
said the author didn’t compare Academia to something else, just disdained the
state of affairs surrounding this life.
Although I fully
empathize with the author, it must be pointed out that corporate research and
development is quite similar. It’s hard to stand out and shine with one single
brilliant and seismic idea, regardless of your field of activity. It’s how
humans interact, how general opinion and behavior is
built.
Prof. Lee Smolin offered a rather
romantic view: change the system from within. Quitting and expressing your
disgust is something I also intend doing, but I am fully aware it’s a matter of
personal choice. Sadly, nobody worth the beating will be bitchslapped
in this way..
208. REPLY
17/03/2014
THISISME
The text has
lots of truth in it, expressed cristal
clear… but here it goes another gem; if critical, enthusiastic people with love
for science, like the author, see the situation in the academia and decide that
is better to run away, how would it ever change? how
would it get healthy? you are deploying the good
material and leaving the bad one behind. Since you already knew how was
industry is, then it’s ok to go there… ? One has to
flight for what one loves… If you love science fight to change the academy
209. REPLY
23/03/2014
SILVIA
The EXACT same
things can be said about the humanities. How sad, what dysfunction. Aaaaaanndd….I’m outta here! Three
articles in top journals, book under consideration and stellar student evals….earning 12,000 this past year. No more, baby, no
more.
210. REPLY
12/04/2014
AK
BINGO @Silvia!
I was waiting
for someone else besides me to say that. I had received a very generous federal
scholarship/stipend (~$19k per year) to complete my degree. As far as I know,
unless you are a genius, that’s a pretty good stipend.
Since I left the
phd program (last fall) I
got a job at a non-profit making $60k with a ton of benefits. and, i’m helping the neediest in
society, using and improving my research, supervisory, and technical skills, my
co-workers respect and listen to every single suggestion I make, and I only
have to work 40 hours a week.
Why on earth
continue to work for minimum wage and be treated like dirt in the hopes of
“improving the system from the inside”? Come on now let’s be real … work for 12
hours a day every day (when you include travel and prepping for conferences,
publication deadlines, student emails, grading assignments, seeking funding,
fulfilling university requirements, sitting in on committee mtgs,
etc.) when you can achieve your moral, scholarly, and financial goals without
all the egos and the headaches?
211.REPLY
26/05/2014
DOMINIC
Refreshingly in
touch with reality, thank you for sharing what so many of us have encountered
in the ivory towers of the academic world. A change is necessary, if not
urgent.
212. REPLY
09/09/2014
SUSMAN
@FeuDRenais
I wouldn’t be
commenting right now, unless I felt the same way as you stated in your email.
Even though you state experiences at EPFL mostly, it sounds eerily similar to
the systems in place in at least 3 different institutions I have worked as a
researcher. It is easy to agree with you completely on all points.
Having been in
academics for almost 5 years now (first as a master’s student for 2 yrs and then as a researcher-non degree at a University for
nearly 3 years presently), I have come to conclude independently almost
everything you stated; which I think, is quite interesting. Currently I am a
research employee at a University (non degree seeker)
and therefore I am not committed to anyone. However, my boss (Professor at the
University) wants to enslave me and make me a PhD student. But, I have spent
enough time in academia to realize everything what you wrote and that has kept
me vacillating decidedly on a PhD.
My intention was
autonomy and intellectual pursuit, however, I don’t
think the current academic system supports such endeavors.
I am tired of this so-called publish or perish culture, even though this year
alone I have already published 3 articles in so called top tier journals. This
was done mostly due to my supervisor pressuring me, but ,
personally I think it was a complete waste of my time. My supervisor, on the
other hand is extremely pleased with my work, as he gets to sign off his name
on the papers, and that is all that matters to him. Most often the work done is
wasteful incremental work, and in my case I thought it wasn’t worth more than a
regular assignment, albeit more tedious and mathematically involved. Another
thing that you stated, which resonates with me is this whole cheer leading
attitude of the professors. I have worked with several groups and the PI’s are
merely interested in making the graduate students and post-docs under him write
proposals for grants. In some cases, they have even never read the proposal
themselves. They just use their subordinates to accumulate grants and
completely pointless papers, with no genuine interest in actual science
themselves. What I completely abhor is their hypocritical outlook and
pretentious attitude.
Anyways, I have
decided to do something useful with my life, although I still need to figure
out how I can also pursue my interests in mathematics and computing
simultaneously. I want to thank you for the post that exposes the reality of
the present day academia and it saves me a blog that I intended to write myself.
213. REPLY
13/11/2014
ALEX
A very
objectionable comment : Why the author felt dwarf in
such circumstances?
214. REPLY
17/11/2014
XIANG
Very great summary. I am a second year master student in science, when I
first start to research, I love it so much. But after a year’s experience in
this field, I am disappointed with the way how it works and disappointed with
what most researchers are doing. I decided not to go to a PhD program.
215. REPLY
04/01/2015
BRIAN
You’re deserved
to PhD because you finally get to know the real academic life.
I certainly know enormous creative persons exist in real life than in academia
in ratio.
PhD is necessary only for being to a professor. Otherwise, it is worthless
indeed.
216. REPLY
13/01/2015
AK
Exactly. Well, I anticipate being the recipient of many honorary
degrees once I publish what’s sure to be a Pulitzer-prize winning book about my
phd experience, entitled
“Demoted to Idiot”
217. REPLY
24/02/2015
NASSER
Finished my PhD
and financially bankrupt! Thanks goes to Starbucks of
allowing me to set for hours using their WIFI and space.
Finally, someone put the facts forwards.
Welcome to the Phd-slavery life! It is an universal phenomenon of todays’s
academics.
218. REPLY
17/04/2015
OCEAN
Ways to fix
problems with PhD
1) There should
not be any adviser. They are the main crap in the whole system. If a PhD
student wants to defend his/her work in front of a
group of experts, it should be the student’s choice.
2) Instead of
one PhD adviser, there can be a group of advisers who will guide the PhD
student with equal responsibility.
3) Universities
should provide additional financial benefits to the professors based on the
feedback given by graduated PhD students.
Key point:
Tenure track professors are pure evil. They should be kicked out from the
system.
219. REPLY
23/04/2015
DAX FOHL
I don’t think
there’s anything wrong with the system. I think all that’s wrong is students’
expectations going into it. Kids imagine that a PhD program is like a Greek
Aristotle / Socrates thing, just by virtue of admission to the program. It’s
not. Aristotle and Socrates were two people that have existed in time. There
are hundreds of thousands of grad students each year. “Free thought” science
scales out to a couple people, not to millions.
It’s the same
way with other things. Watch “The Wire”. Everyone in the police force “knows”
they should be going after the crime kingpins, not just doing street busts. In
an ideal world, that’s absolutely how it should be done. But it simply doesn’t
scale that way, and ends up causing more trouble than it helps. So it’s not
that the academic system is “flawed”, it’s that the whole concept can’t scale
out to the level desired of it.
I’ve got a kid
now and my feeling going into it is, if she can get into a top-3 grad school
and/or work with a very respectable advisor, then *maybe* it’s worth it, but to
go even a #4 or #5 school (unless to work with a great advisor) then I’ll
advise against it.
220. REPLY
23/04/2015
LEON DU TOIT
The author of
the text is likely to discover that the same holds true in most of the
professional labour market.
221. REPLY
23/04/2015
ALEX
As a PhD student
I feel that the post was truthful and with a strong basis, but I do feel it’s a
little bit naive. Now, my particular issue with this post is that he/she missed
the most important point about what completing a PhD is all about. That is,
completing a PhD is not about the dissertation topic. “It is mainly about
learning the research process.” Sure you want to pick a topic that you like
enough to stick with it for as long as it takes. And yes, your PhD adviser will
definitely try to direct you to an area they know, as otherwise it’d be more
work for them. Actually, picking a good dissertation adviser is even more
important than picking the topic itself. Thus, if you picked a bad adviser,
you’ll be swimming against the current unnecessarily for a long time. And by a
bad adviser, I don’t mean a bad individual. I know professors that are great to
get along with, but will not be of much help throughout the dissertation
process, which is something to keep in mind. Again, the key point in all this
is that completing a PhD is about learning how to do thorough academic research
and not about doing major groundbreaking work. Sure,
there has to be originality in the work and you need to make at least a small
ding in terms of groundbreaking, etc,
etc, but at the end of all it’s really about learning
the process. In terms of funding, etc, yep that’s the
way it works. The deal here is competition. A lot of the funding comes from
government (aka tax payers) and no politician (or appointees)
want to be caught giving money to institutions that are not producing.
And you can be sure that the other institutions that are competing for those
same funds are going to be complaining if that money goes to
organizations/institutions that don’t have anything to show for. So yes, that’s
the way it rolls!
222. REPLY
24/04/2015
FRED
tl;dr (and my comment is too short)
223. REPLY
24/04/2015
MARK
Thank you for
your bravery.
The world has been deceived in a big way by the Academic-Big Science complex.
Witness the circus around the Higgs particle ‘discovery’. Nobody could describe
what it was that they discovered, how it changed anything or enabled any new
capability, yet billions in tax dollars had been spent.
In the computer
field we have the same issue, which is why the only people that have done
anything great in this field have quit long before they got their PhD.
Not to worry
though, we are on the verge of a new era where people of all walks of life will
be able to make their own discoveries for a very low cost, and contribute them
back to the world, without any intermediary.
Cheers from a
fellow dropout that never looked back.
224. REPLY
16/06/2015
ESS
Thanks for
having written and posting this! Having quit my phd (applied EM) not too long ago, I find this to be
quite honest and very comforting to read. It can be difficult to meet people in
real life who have faced the same and aren’t deluded. I’ve come to a conclusion
that scientific research these days, for the most part, is best done as a
serious hobby with like-minded people. I remember, after quitting, a senior
faculty member told me, my problem was that I was too
honest!
225. REPLY
11/07/2015
G
@ Bill Skaggs:
Criticizing someone’s character doesn’t invalidate their experiences. Please
tell me you’re not making the absurd argument that “ is
simply part of becoming a Ph.D.!” line…
The concerns
above are mirrored in my experience as well. I left a graduate program after
having publishable work stolen outright (though I pulled the article). There is
nothing “wrong” with people who decide not to tolerate theft, abuse, sexual
harassment, or favoritism in an academic program,
though there are always people making arguments similar to Bill’s.
Fortunately for
me, I have marketable skills and interests in other areas, but many people who
resign these programs don’t have those luxuries. They then become the subject
matter of the departmental scary story: “Student X left our program and now
she’s a clerk, so you can’t leave”!
226. REPLY
25/09/2015
RAYMUNDO PLASTER
Thoughtful
suggestions – I am thankful for the analysis – Does someone know if my
assistant could grab a template OT Recruitment Resignation Letter form to fill in ?
227. REPLY
03/08/2016
LALIPA NILUBOL
I am here
providing the link to the first article of many more that I intend to publish,
exposing corruption in higher education. It is clearly a global problem,
although I believe social media may become part of a global solution.
https://www.minds.com/blog/view/607469149869842451
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229. REPLY
14/04/2017
PETERPARKER
//At the EPFL,
the dean sends us an e-mail every year saying how the school is doing in the
rankings, and we are usually told that we are doing well. I always ask myself
what the point of these e-mails is. //
Nice post, I was
till point 7, when this one caught my eye.
The main work of Dean is to ensure that college’s or
universities board of governors are given the results which they actually care,
which is branding, profits, which in turn, would ensure that Dean is able to
get more funding. It gives him right that look EPFL, or for that matter, any
university stands at this position today, an improvement by 20 margins from the
previous ranking, and if you can invest a bit more in this, then we would
improve a lot.
Actually, there’s another reason for ranking. With an economy which is totally
stagnating, and people not willing to join universities, as it is a huge debt
with absolutely no job security, because universities have to play by the
corporate rule, or else, it would be a mess for them, the rankings and branding
help them to create an environment in the minds of students, and parents, that
if your kids join our university, they would reach on top. But yes, once again,
the blame is on the students, for not ‘working hard’, for not ‘showing
interest’, for being ‘lazy’, being a drunkard on campus, running behind girls
etc.
At the end of the day, academics is a business now,
and no one really cares whether the actual knowledge is being imparted. These
are mere ‘idealistic’ talks in the books of american capitalism, and not ‘practical’ methods of
ruling the world.
230. REPLY
28/06/2017
NICK
To the author: I
quit my PhD at a Dutch university a few months ago and I find that your letter
resonates strongly with me. I realize that your story is almost four years old
now and that you may never read this, but I still wanted to thank you for it.
An additional
complaint that I had about my personal situation (and that others may
recognize) is that the work I was doing was simply very boring. Like pretty
much all PhD students, I am exceptionally intelligent and have a great capacity
for abstract thinking and reasoning. I was hoping to apply these assets in my
work, yet, on a daily basis, I found myself simply repeating the same
experiments again and again, grinding to produce data to satisfy my
supervisor’s vain ambition.
We were not
working to solve a problem, nor were we testing a hypothesis; we were just
gathering data blindly, trying to independently vary as many experimental
parameters as we could, with the utterly uninspired hope that we might see some
pattern appear if only we could gather enough data and vary enough parameters,
which meant that I had to keep on grinding. We needed to do this because data means
figures. You can always conclude *something* from a figure, which means that,
so long as you have data, you can write a paper, which is the goal, because so
long as you can write papers, you are deemed to function well as a scientist.
The absurdly extrapolated implication of this thinking is that you can subject
any arbitrary sample to any arbitrary experiment and likewise obtain data and
draw conclusions. What deeper insight have you obtained? What conflict in our
theoretical framework have you resolved? What hypothesis have you tested? Those
have sadly become irrelevant questions. I’m confident that as scientific
disciplines become narrower and narrower and the communities correspondingly
smaller, the practice of science will converge ever closer to this absurdity.
If everyone in a field produces worthless papers, cites each other and
prospers, while no-one outside the field can understand and thus criticize the
contents of the work, this is what you’ll get.
On many
occasions did I ask my professor what, exactly, the
scientific question was that we were trying to answer with our research. Every
time, I got a vague and evasive reply. Now I realize that deception and
hype-creation are essential skills of a successful “scientist” and my professor
was very skilled at those aspects. I realize that there was not really a
scientific question beyond “what will the graph look like if we put this on the
x-axis and this on the y-axis?… and what if we put
this other thing on the y-axis?” ad nauseam. I have often felt that many PhDs –
and many obedient, hard-working, uncritical PhD students –
don’t know what the “Ph” in their title stands for.
My whole PhD
experience (I slogged through two-and-a-half years of it) felt like a great
waste of my mind and I felt like I was learning nothing, developing no new
insights, not growing as a person or a scholar. When I finally got fed up and
demanded more intellectually challenging and meaningful work, I was told I was
naive and that this was simply the way things work. That was the last straw for
me.
If all academics
do what I did, then academics can be replaced by robots within a few decades at
most: calibrate apparatus, align optics, place sample, run experiment, save
data, remove sample, rinse, repeat. I chose this profession because I wanted to
be a thinker and eventually a teacher (anyone remember what the D in PhD stands
for?), but in practice it was more like how I imagine work in a factory:
repetitive, mind-numbing and soul-crushing. Add to that all of the systemic
problems in academia mentioned by the original author and I think it’s no
wonder that all I got out of it was depression and bitterness.
One final point
that isn’t addressed often enough: if the only way to have a career in academia
is to become a professor and a professor “produces”, on average, X PhDs in
his/her career, then *by design* only 1/X of all PhD graduates can stay in
academia. No wonder jobs are scarce! Why are there no permanent positions for
scientists to do research but not continually produce new PhDs? In a way, it’s
like the American dream: *anyone* can make it, but not *everyone* can make it,
so there are a lot of losers *by design*, but to each loser individually you
can say that he/she is to blame for his/her own misfortune. It’s a sick system.
I didn’t mean to
write this rant, but I’m glad I did. Thanks again to the original author and
also to the many people writing supportive comments here. I feel for those who
cannot realistically leave academia anymore because they are in their
mid-thirties and still struggling in the post-doc racket. I guess I’m lucky for
getting out in time.
231. REPLY
12/07/2017
SULEKHA
I realized all
of these academic problems after spending almost 2 years as a Ph.D scholar. As soon as I realized it, I left the academia
and decided to do some meaningful work.
232. REPLY
20/12/2017
FRANK
Well, this is
nothing new for me. I recently got my PhD, and I also decided to leave
academia. I think the system is stagnated; proffessors
who don’t publish anything new, and don’t leave room for new talent. In my
case, my PI wanted to prove something really useless with no solid background,
just becasue in his head this was some kind of breaktrough that would help him get into a top journal. He
just wanted to get an ego boost, and he has persued
this for almost a decade with only one article published, not even in a good
journal. I really wonder how he manages to get funds to continue doing nothing.
Everything the
author describes must be a wake up call. Or maybe it
is just how it must be: the end of academia, so something new can emerge. Just
like everything else.
233. REPLY
28/03/2018
RADIX
To be honest I
find this a bit disappointing. The post is already 4 years old and there are
still many people who feel identified by it. How do you guys manage to cope?
I am considering
doing a PhD myself and I need to carefully evaluate what I am getting into,
because it would require me to live abroad for a minimum of three years. During
that time, I will probably not be able to save enough and at this point in my
life (30 y.o.) I am not in
the position to continue depending on my parents financially. Besides, I have
read in other places that getting a job as a professor is
next to impossible unless you are a Postdoc which should take about 2 years
after a PhD. I mean, is the situation that bad?
I have worked in
the IT industry for nearly 10 years now. I have a steady income and yes, during
my experience I have had my share of miserable experiences, too. But if
something bad happens, I can always look for another job and move on. I don’t
think that is a possibility when you are doing a PhD.
At the moment I
am considering two options. Whether I should go back to
college for a PhD or if I should start up my own business. I need to
carefully gauge each one’s pros and cons before I make any decision. Everything
seems to point in the direction of a startup, but
something deep inside tells me I should still do a PhD. Many of my friends tell
me I should consider the latter, too. However, I can see there are big cons
involved. What do you think? Is it really that worthwhile? For example, if you
want to work on machine learning and AI, is it really that necessary to hold a
PhD? Your comments are appreciated.